G'day Mat, err Mate..

What's mildly strange about this is that AMA-DGM claimed the stock crank
had chamfered oil ways while the race crank didn't. That now strikes me
as a manufacturing change from Suzuki between 2006 and 2008 for
reliability. Maybe.

 

And the beat goes on
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=34166
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=34164

Suzuki present a plausible case.
DMG dismiss it.

Hey ho.

However it seems to me that Suzuki's case is professional, compelling
and above all fits the letter of the law. While DMG's dismissal is noise
and bluster with no content.

But then we get this:-
"They tried to convince us that another vendor made that part. And I
think that’s right. I think it’s the vendor that makes [racing] kit
cranks" Misunderstanding, grandstanding or are Suzuki lying and the
crank is actually a kit part from some other vendor?

"did not match that part" is not in the rules. DMG gave specifics as to
how it didn't match the rules and Suzuki have answered them and
explained each one with an explanation that does fit the rules. And the
core of the problem is that the cranks were manufactured in 2005/06,
cherry picked off the production line but were compared with a stock
2008 crank.

Edmondson makes this big thing about “Three times we were asked by
principals of Yoshimura Racing what it would take to make this whole
thing go away,†Edmondson told Roadracingworld.com. “Typically, that
is not the kind of thing you hear when people are negotiating in good
faith and trying to work toward a resolution of an appeal.

If you were Suzuki being faced by an organisation making unwarranted and
difficult demands, wouldn't you ask, "What can we provide that is going
to satisfy you (and make this go away, because we don't believe we've
done anything wrong.)?"

 

What you have to take into consideration here is who is reporting on
this. Note that when DMG offered their previous statement on this
matter, RRW titled their post, "AMA Pro Racing Defends Mladin
Disqualification And Appeal Denial", but when Suzuki responded it was,
"Rockstar Makita Yoshimura Suzuki Issues Another Press Release Related
To AMA's Denial Of Mladin's Appeal", a rather ho-hum charaterization.
And then they needed to follow up the same day with their, "Updated:
AMA Pro Racing's Edmondson: The Fact Is They Got Caught Cheating"
post, giving Rog the last word. And they start that post with this:
"American Suzuki and Rockstar Makita Yoshimura Suzuki have taken the
case of Mat Mladin’s crankshaft to the court of public opinion, and
AMA Pro Racing's Roger Edmondson has answered their opening
arguments."

But he doesn't answer the basic question of why an appeal hearing was
denied, just calls them cheaters and offers pure speculation as to
what they were doing ("I think it’s the vendor that makes [racing] kit
cranks, not the vendor that makes production cranks, because in the
entire Suzuki nation of motorcycles only three have ever had cranks
like that, that we are aware of."), just as Syfan implied in the RA
press conference (Q You mentioned the color of the crank a couple of
times. What does that mean? A We don't know. We have our theories,
again..)

And then he says this: "“All this other bullsh-t about whether it
helped the performance and stuff is secondary. The part didn’t match
the sample, period." So I guess if they discovered a part where the
sample erroneously provided by the OEM at the start of the season was
pre-production part and didn't quite match all the production parts,
they'd wipe out all of that bikes results all season, for all
riders?

Another aspect of this is that the editor of RRW runs a race team that
has been running GSX-R1000s for years, on a supported basis and with a
very respected crew chief. Yet they have made no comment at all on the
technicalities of that crank, have they? You would think they could
seek out an expert opinion, wouldn't you? It's not like they haven't
on other occasions.

 

You questioning someone's rationality? Wow!!

You stated something about their racist past and redneck present, so
tell us more. Tell you what, don't hold back, name names!

I asked if *YOU* believe 8 real SBK's are bigtime racing, but TBH I
didn't expect an answer..

And reaping the benefits too..

You call asking a bunch of questions an answer? I guess in your world
of spin it is, but that doesn't work in the real world. So, please
enlighten me..

Ahh, the name calling you always resort to when pressed for a rational
answer, so typical and so boring too..

Doyle, if you didn't know, is solely responsible for that illegal crank
being in Mat's bike and while it would've been refreshing to see him
man-up and accept responsibility, he did not, and that probably has
just as much to do with the (lack of) integrity Yosh has, as well as
him..

Oh yeah, tell us about Speed and how they're gonna televise the MIC
series, you seem to know more about that than they do and while your at
it, where are all those tracks that you said were lined up for MIC. The
AMA series has them lined up, where's theirs?
http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Sep/080916a.htm
BTW, that's pretty much the death nell..

I'm sorry if DMG's Speedway Blvd. address somehow threatens your
(little) world Mark, but I am not sorry your vision of M/C racing is
not held by any in real power...

 

I dunno 'bout you, but I would think anyone that was serious about
starting a series would be out making friends, not enemies..

 

On 2008-09-21 14:27:21 -0400, Mark N <> said:

{bullshit snip}

What unadulterated horseshit! JU is pissed, (as many others are too)
that Honda and Suzuki used him and his good faith offices to further
confuse and confound the negotiation process. Why? Because they feel,
or felt (just like you do too) so much "love" for racing in this
country that they would rather see it destroyed instead of letting
anyone who knows what they're doing assume command, as they would much
rather have inept fools, or more of their paid-off lackeys in charge..

This whole deal is about control and really nothing more, not
direction, not classes, not rules, nothing. Those two OEM's feel they
own racing here because they surreptitiously controlled the old
Proracing to promote sales since before it was conceived. They fear DMG
because they know full well with them in charge they will never be able
to manipulate racing like they did before, end of story, take that to
the bank, stick it up your azz, or whatever it is you do...

You need a job writing for McCain you spin so much bullshit. Oh wait, nah...