Gas cap leaks only when tank is almost empty???

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by mike, Aug 8, 2004.

  1. mike

    mike Guest

    Ok, I know you guys think I'm a crackpot posting all these
    weird symptoms. I'm a magnet for weirdness...

    I never did find anything to use as a gas cap gasket
    for my Honda CB125S.
    Then I discovered that a mouse pad is neoprene and is gas
    resistant, after the glue softens and the cover comes off.
    So, I made a gas cap gasket out of a mouse pad.

    When the tank is full, it works great. Not a drop leaks out.
    As the tank approaches empty, gas starts to leak out of the cap.
    I fill it up and the leaking stops. I've done this several
    times and it's absolutely repeatable.

    I can't get my head around how this can happen...or what to do
    to fix it.

    mike

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    Diablo Guest

    Gas cap vent plugged / restricted ?...Just shooting in the dark here as it
    sounds too weird to happen <LOL>
     
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    Derek Turner Guest

    When the tank is full, there is little to no airspace to become
    pressurized. As the tank empties, the airspace increases and the tank
    becomes susceptible to pressurization. Altho usually it's usually a
    negative pressure(vacuum)if the tank cap isn't venting. The the bike
    stalls and won't run because the head pressure of the amount of fuel
    left in the tank can't overcome the negative pressure in the tank and
    the carb looses it's gravity feed. Now if the bike sits for a while
    with a low level in the tank, especially in the sun, the tank will
    become pressurized positively and you'll get a rush of air escaping
    when you remove the cap. The cap is supposed to vent positive and
    negative pressures, keeping the tank at atmospheric, so as was
    suggested, I would be looking at the cap venting mechanism itsself
    first.

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    Derek Turner, Aug 9, 2004
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  4. mike

    mike Guest

    I'm not sure I buy that. The pressure developed by vaporizing liquid
    should be pretty much independent of the volume available. More gas
    sloshing around in the tank should increase the possibility that liquid
    gets into the vent. I'm observing opposite behavior.
    I do agree about the negative pressure developed by draining the gas,
    but that should suck air in thru a leaky spot, not spray gas out????

    As the tank empties, the airspace increases and the tank

    The the bike


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