FZ400 flat spot, any ideas?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by CG, Oct 29, 2003.

  1. CG

    CG Guest

    I've just got my '84 FZ400 up and running for the winter commuting
    season, and I'm having a few running problems. The bike starts OK, but
    any choke kills the motor instantly and means I have to leave it for a
    few minutes. Not a big problem but it does mean I have to keep the
    motor running and warm it up using the throttle.

    The real annoyance is a *huuuuuge* flat spot at about 5000-7000 rpm.
    In first gear the bike can just about pull through it with a lot of
    farting and spitting, but in the higher gears the only way through it
    is to gain momentum using lower revs then drop a couple of gears and
    nail it. Above 7000 rpm the bike takes off like a good-un and feels
    strong. Extra annoying because this rev range coincides with 70mph in
    top, so the cruising choices are 65 mph or 85+.

    I've stripped the carbs, which are pretty clean. I've made sure the
    main and pilot jets are clear, cleaned out the air screws, checked the
    diaphragms are intact and moving smoothly, and also the little jet in
    the base of the diaphragm chamber in each carb also looks clear,
    although I can't remove them for some reason. The floats all function
    and are set as I'd expect (not been able to find any official service
    specs for the bike), and the fuel lines are clear (also i tried the
    fuel tap in "prime" position) The only thing I haven't disassembled is
    the choke circuit.

    The motor itself has recently been replaced with a secondhand one, and
    it behaved the same before the swap except for the choke behaviour.
    Also the flat spot seems to get worse the hotter the motor gets, am I
    correct in thinking this implies a overrich mixture condition?

    Anyone got any ideas before I go off in search of a new set of carbs?

    Cheers and thanks,
    Corin Grieves.
     
    CG, Oct 29, 2003
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  2. CG

    Pip Guest

    On 29 Oct 2003 06:54:38 -0800, (CG) wrote:

    Yes. Absolutely. You've got something stuck or well worn there,
    mate. Starting without choke is the real giveaway here.
    Check your valve clearances - and that the choke is actually off when
    you think it is. What is the fuel consumption like - and have you
    checked the colour of the plugs?
    The one and only SUKBOG Corin Grieves? If so, I believe we whipped
    the SO's FZ400 rat out from under your nose on ebay a few months ago
    .... sorry, fella ;-)
     
    Pip, Oct 29, 2003
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  3. CG

    CG Guest

    Yeah, I suppose it's all pointing towards the choke circuit. Will whip
    the choke plungers off and see what's what. Fuel consumption is
    average, not really sure what to expect from it really, but certainly
    nowhere near the 50-60 mpg I've seen reported from some 400s. Plugs
    were a nice tan when I checked them, but that was before I'd done an
    extended run. Will check them out also now I've done a few miles.
    LOL! Yup, the very same! Was gutted about the rat, would have made a
    nice pair of his & her's FZs. Not a problem though- them's the kicks!
    I'll take a set of carbs in compensation though :D

    Cheers for the tips,
    Corin.
     
    CG, Oct 30, 2003
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  4. CG

    Elly Guest

    <grins> I'm the SO who fell in love with the ugly little devil (the
    FZ, not Pip).

    It needed a hell of a lot of work to get it through the MOT (1) but it
    finally passed. It's been doing stirling service since then
    transporting me to and from college in a most entertaining style.
    However, this morning, it's decided that it's too cold and damp to go
    out to play ... little wretch ;)

    The scooter boyz on the campus leave a healthy space around it when
    it's parked up and, bless their little cotton socks, have finally
    started to pluck up the courage to ask questions about it ... one shy
    spotty yoof sidled up and wanted to blip the throttle, how sweet.

    (1) This in intself was entertaining as the guy who tested it likes
    "shiny bikes" and could barley conceal the looks of disgust and
    revulsion as he was poring over the FZ.

    --

    Elly - a studious Pixie
    Uzi - a CBR600F Sport
    Spike - FZ400
    MRO#32 ibW#25 BoTAFOT#46 BoTAFOF #46 GP#1 UKRMRM#00 TWA#3
    http://www.garagepixies.co.uk
    "Angel in the kitchen ... "
    elly at garagepixies dot co dot uk

    --

    Elly - a studious Pixie
    Uzi - a CBR600F Sport
    Spike - FZ400
    MRO#32 ibW#25 BoTAFOT#46 BoTAFOF #46 GP#1 UKRMRM#00 TWA#3
    http://www.garagepixies.co.uk
    "Angel in the kitchen ... "
    elly at garagepixies dot co dot uk
     
    Elly, Oct 30, 2003
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