Further on the Nanny State

Grimly Curmudgeon · Feb 22, 2010

But they will try and get you in the end.

If they can't abuse the laws brought in to protect us (Section 44) they
will lie and make up fictitious complaints to arrest you. Just so they
have the last word and aren't made to look the idiots they appear.

I think the guy involved is very restrained and in his reference to the
lady Blunket special (PCSO) polite.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/feb/21/photographer-films-anti-terror-arrest
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More wankers in action:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2009/dec/15/police-terrorism

Wicked Uncle Nigel · Feb 22, 2010

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Grimly Curmudgeon
<> typed

(Humungo-snip)

More wankers in action:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2009/dec/15/police-terrorism
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For *****'s* sake! Did somebody make snipping posts fucking illegal?

Grimly Curmudgeon · Feb 22, 2010

For *****'s* sake! Did somebody make snipping posts fucking illegal?
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Pip, is that you?

Fr Jack · Feb 22, 2010

Wicked Uncle Nigel said:

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Grimly Curmudgeon
<> typed

(Humungo-snip)

For *****'s* sake! Did somebody make snipping posts fucking illegal?
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A PCSO told him not to...

The Older Gentleman · Feb 22, 2010

petrolcan said:

Oh, I'm not displeased about anything.

You made it clear that you don't like the UK, I asked you to **** off.

Quite simple really.

No, its not.
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I watched rather a lot of Frog TV in the last week, in our ski
apartment. It got really, really irritating seeing people's faces
'fuzzed out' in every single sodding documentary.

davethedave · Feb 22, 2010

Perhaps if they were asked
if they would like to have to wear it they may start behaving
differently.
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Err unless I've not been paying attention traffic plod do have to
wear a butt ugly high vis. Don't they?

Spete · Feb 22, 2010

Oh, that's got to be rubbish. I'm sure that I'm equally visible
wearing hi-viz on either my Bandit or my GSXR. Probably more so on
the GSXR as the screen is tiny and low compared to the Bandit.

And anyway, I don't think hi-vix is really applicable in on-coming
scenarios. That's for the headlight. It's side-on where it's useful,
such as lane swapping on a motorway.
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What does work, is a white beemer tour-model, with red and blue
reflective lines and some pretty bright blue PIAA lights. Connect to
main beam, flash occassionally.

Pip · Feb 23, 2010

Grimly said:

Pip, is that you?
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No ... but ... <shifts uncomfortably> ... I feel I'm being ...
channelled.

boots · Feb 23, 2010

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What's all that bollocks then.

Beav · Feb 23, 2010

des hanging around for a while said:

*ding*

<fx: wavy lines of screen ...>
The scene is ... a Scottish town in the seventies. The street that goes
past the barber's. A man in his twenties, well known to locals as a
bit of an eccentric, is walking down the street. He hasn't had a bath in
a
while, and he's walking barefoot, but other than that, he's harmless. In
front of the barber's, he stops and raises his arms to the heavens in
silence. The calm is broken by the sound of tyres screeching, as an
unmarked police car skids to a halt next to him. Four plod in civvies
jump
out, and unceremoniously bundle our hero into the car.

It's Friday afternoon.

Fast forward to Monday when after a weekend in the cells, our man is
brought before the beak, and the 'arresting officer' takes the oath,
consults his notes, and tells the sheriff that the accused was 'abusive,
shouting and screaming, and physically violent towards me and another
officer'.

Hardly surprisingly, he's convicted.

Only a year or so later, does it emerge that the officer who swore under
oath that he had been attacked by the bloke ... was sunning himself on a
beach in Spain at the time of the arrest.
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That's what you can expect if you go around pretending to be Jesus. on a
cross.

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Beav

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Beav · Feb 23, 2010

frag said:

Andy Bonwick took a blunt brush and painted...

I don't know if you'd call it compartmentalising but if I was stopped and
did
the "yes sir, no sir, 3 bags full sir" to get out of there as quickly as
possible I'd feel annoyed at myself the rest of the day.

If I had a rant I'd feel a lot better the rest of the day.
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Unless Plod decided to get all pissy and have you hanging around for hours.
Or radio your reg number down thew road so another Plod gets a chance to
stop you so he can hear a rant. I bet Plod have "nights in" watching car
video footage under the heading "Rant of the week".

Note this feeling isn't to do with the being stopped as such, but to do
with
the giving out high viz jackets to save lives just bugs the hell out of me
with my experience. (which as a poll count of 1 cannot be conclusive but
the
outcome of the accident has made me feel that way regardless)
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They're good for keeping your leathers clean when you have to lie down to
get fairings/belly pans off bikes though.

Hey, we're all different, I respect your opinion and actions.

Probably not as I can't think of any government that has listened to
public
opinion.
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I agree with that.

However the git that knocked me off does have pride of place at the top of
my
list if I ever go postal.
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Send him a hi-viz bib so you can spot him easily

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Beav

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OMF# 19

Beav · Feb 24, 2010

des hanging around for a while said:

Yep. This is exactly what I pointed out, and which appears to have so
displeased 'Beav' and 'petrolcan'.
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What displeases me is your constant banging on about how bad the UK is (so
you fucked off from here) and eventually fetched up in Isreal then your
banging on about how bad the Joos have it (out of the frying pan into the
fire. Magic). A little bit of a contradiction, but hey ho eh? I'm not
particularly arsed about our "loss of civil liberties" as I kow I'm not long
for this world, let alone this country, so before it gets to the point that
it really bothers me, I'll be long gone.

The UK is now a bona fide police state,
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Oh yeah, absolutely. Knob.

and any attempt by subjects to rock the boat, will be met first with a
relatively 'anodine' arrest for a breach of the peace.
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Absolute fucking bollocks.

Most people will be
so scared by such a prospect, i.e. having a criminal record even for
something as trivial as a breach, that the desired effect will be
achieved:
compliance.
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Even more bollocks.

Should the subject resist, or show further disobediance, then all methods
up to and including the use of lethal force, will be employed. Hilda
Murrell will tell you all about it. Oh, wait.... I'm still talking
bollocks. So no changes there then.
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Edited for accuracy.

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Beav

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Beav · Feb 25, 2010

des hanging around for a while said:

{ snip tirade of abuse }
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Abuse? Really Desmond, you need to develop a thicker skin if you took
thought that was abuse.

*shrug*
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It's a thing women wear.

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Beav

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Beav · Feb 25, 2010

steve auvache said:

<puzzled>

What are these fairings/belly pans of which you speak? Are they some
sort of pest infection that needs removing?
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They are on other people's bikes, although I have a belly pan on the Zed
which was a present from my beloved. I can get that one off without the need
to lie down though, so a hi-viz bib would be wasted on me.

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Beav

VN 750
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frag · Feb 25, 2010

Beav took a blunt brush and painted...

Unless Plod decided to get all pissy and have you hanging around for hours.
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They're good for keeping your leathers clean when you have to lie down to
get fairings/belly pans off bikes though.
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Hah, good point.

Send him a hi-viz bib so you can spot him easily
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Hah. I'm now going to find out if one could make a high viz jacket with the
reflective component made out of explosive.

Beav · Feb 26, 2010

frag said:

Beav took a blunt brush and painted...

Hah, good point.

Hah. I'm now going to find out if one could make a high viz jacket with
the
reflective component made out of explosive.
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I believe it's either Pip or darsy you need for that. My days of combining
normally innocuous chemicals are far behind me.

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Beav

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