Fuggit - That's me keeping the L plates a bit longer then :-/

Says it all really.
Two fails basically, one on the good old emergency stop, back wheel locked.
Other was a right hand turn on a crossroads with a yellow hatch box.
Suddenly though "you're not allowed to stop in the hatch unless you have a
clear exit". Turns out there's an exeption which he wouldn't tell me as I'd
forget

<fx:googles>
ahhh
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Bajaj Chetak 125 - Wannabe Vespa
Lambretta Li186 - stripped.
Vespa T5 Millenium - intact
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Not a problem in itslef, as long as you keep it in control and stop
within the distance allowed.

It's allowed if you're making a right turn.

Bad luck and all that - next time do it on a proper bike and he won't
be so bleeding awkward.

 

"Ace" replied to "Donegal Paul"

I did keep it under control but not sure what the distance of the skid was,
Im guessing it was 6 feet, which is a bit long i'd guess but i dont know
what the limit is?

Yup, that's what I was doing too, hence the fail :-/

*heh* I don't believe that he was deliberatly being awkward I have to admit,
seemed quite a decent chap really.
--
Donegal Paul - On the mend
Maico Letta 247cc - We have the technology.
Bajaj Chetak 125 - Wannabe Vespa
Lambretta Li186 - stripped.
Vespa T5 Millenium - intact
www.thepilgrimssc.co.uk

 

It's allowed if you're making a right turn AND the only thing preventing you
from completing the manoeuvre is oncoming traffic. For example, its not
allowed if the road that you intend to turn into is blocked by stationary
traffic.

Tony

Tony

 

I don't care what the instructors might say, but my advice would be to
forget all about the back brake in an emergency stop - it's naff all use.
The fact that it locks up so easily proves that the weight transfer is to
the front, and that's the brake you want to be using. Pull the front brake
on progressively, harder and harder as the weight transfers forward, and
you'll be amazed what a short distance you can stop in. In fact, if you put
your mind to it should be able to stop in barely half the distance the
examiner actually expects you to, but don't bother trying that hard as you
don't want the front to lock up.

As for box junctions, ISTR that you are ok to enter if you are turning right
and are only waiting for the opposing traffic to clear the junction - summat
like that anyway. It'll be in the Highway Code - I'm too lazy to dig out my
copy.

Good luck next time.

Rick

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Donegal Paul"

<makes note to send tester money>

Good man, I see he's keeping the side up.

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FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

 

Tell you what, ride a few more bikes before imparting such knowledgeable
bollocks...

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Extreme Racing http://www.veggie-dave.co.uk
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I took my first test in 1967 - failed because I emergency stopped the bike
the way I had learned in the fields - locked up the back, turned the bars
and put the bike slightly sideways; I stopped very quickly but failed on "an
uncontrolled skid". I explained that the skid was under control and
offerered to show him I could do it again - no dice.

Next time I passed even though I rode over a zebra crossing with people on
it - the examiner was round the other side of the church and couldn't see
me. I don't envy people taking their test nowerdays.

John

 

Donegal Paul says...

**** me, even that useless cont of a brother of yours passed

Hard luck chap, there's always another time.

 

http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/pifs/pif_s-z/yellowboxjunctions.rm

 

the cont known as Lozzo says...

First time with no faults too. I'm the gifted one.

 

Veggie Dave emerged from their own little world to say

AOL

 

Bear says...

And unfortunately very true.

 

Them's fightin' words mister, and I challenge you to an emergency stop duel
! Yes, I can do more than talk the talk. I may be crap at cornering, but I
do a mean emergency stop - really.

Actually, I do use a _little_ bit of back brake when SMWBO is, er,
ballasting the back down a bit, but otherwise I stand by my words.

Rick

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Richard Sterry

*snort*

I'd like to see that, I really would. BOSM?

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You gave generic advice that isn't true in numerous cases, one of which
you've just pointed out

Learn to do it properly and then, and only then, can you decide if that
technique is really required in a given situation on a given bike

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UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08
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Extreme Racing http://www.veggie-dave.co.uk
Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me

 

True, you're not expected to perform a real emergency stop on your test.
But that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it properly - firstly because I
have known people to be failed because the examiner spotted that the
rider hadn't used the rear brake at all, and also because there are a
hell of a lot of bikes that require you to use the rear brake for
numerous reasons, including simple stopping

The rear brake is a massive weapon in your bike riding arsenal and
shouldn't be ignored

--
Veggie Dave
UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08
IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com
Extreme Racing http://www.veggie-dave.co.uk
Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me

 

Did you go to the same riding school as Des, you crack-addled freak?

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Beelzebub

You should have *insisted* that he went first.

--
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WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

 

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