Fuel Hoses

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Vincent, Sep 6, 2003.

  1. Vincent

    Vincent Guest

    Good People of uk.rec.motorcycle.classic,
    Does anyone out there know of a supplier for fuel hoses. I need a selection
    of fuel hoses and breathers of different sizes and my local bike shop is
    making worrying noises the availability of genuine items.
    Thanks in advance
    Vin
     
    Vincent, Sep 6, 2003
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  2. At Kempton Park (and presumably other autojumbles) there's always a bod
    with rolls of fuel hose, plastic hose, breather hose, you name it, in
    all sorts of sizes.

    I got some fuel pipe, and some pipes for my vacuum gauges[1] last time.

    [1] The original ones rotted like feck.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 6, 2003
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  3. Vincent

    R L Driver Guest

    motor factors should have hose by the reel and sell it by the metre . Jeez
    I'm a one man band and I carry 6, 8 and 10 mm (1/4 5/16 & 3/8)
    steve the grease
     
    R L Driver, Sep 6, 2003
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  4. Vincent

    RG Guest

    What effect does unleaded have on the older stuff?

    Roger
     
    RG, Sep 7, 2003
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  5. Vincent

    R L Driver Guest

    clear braided neoprene type hoses ( most of which has gone a inflexible
    dark brown by now). There were stories of fires caused by hoses bursting and
    leaking. Modern petrol contains benzene like chemicals , the older stuff
    doesnt. Come back five star.
    steve the grease
     
    R L Driver, Sep 7, 2003
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  6. Vincent

    RG Guest

    Hmmm. Come to thinking about it, I had major problems with a very short
    fuel hose on the Corrado (four wheel thingy for use when the wife has had
    her hair done)

    Only a 12cm job between a pressure regulator and the fuel rail but the
    bugger split putting a deluge of unleaded all over the exhaust manifold. I
    just bought a metre or so of 'fuel hose' from Anwars Discount Deals down in
    Cleckheaton but it kept going rock hard and cracking again after a day or
    two. After many replacements I gave up and got some recommended stuff from
    the dealership. Three times the price but different again!

    Roger
     
    RG, Sep 7, 2003
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  7. Vincent

    sweller Guest


    It's LRP that does...
     
    sweller, Sep 7, 2003
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  8. Vincent

    Mark Olson Guest

    There is a big difference in pressure between fuel injected systems
    (high pressure) and low pressure carbureted systems. I would *never*
    attempt to substitute generic fuel line intended for low pressure use
    for a high pressure hose used in a FI system.

    It sounds as if you bought some cheap hose as well, that wasn't even
    suitable for contact with petrol, doubly bad. For low pressure use on
    a bike, I would go for Tygon(tm) hose every time, it is the very supple
    grey stuff that is used as original equipment on lots of Jap bikes.
     
    Mark Olson, Sep 7, 2003
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  9. mind, if it's sold as petrol pipe, it should be OK for low-pressure use.

    there is an issue with high-pressure pipes though, as injection systems can
    easily be at about 5 bar.
     
    Austin Shackles, Sep 8, 2003
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  10. Vincent

    RG Guest

    I'd forgot that a short length of the cheap hose that gave me problems had,
    in an emergency, been temporality used in a test rig for the second stage of
    some scuba gear - somewhere between 6-10 bar. I dug it out yesterday and it
    still remains flexible and un-compromised. The other factor with it's
    application as a fuel carrier that gave me problems, was probably the
    intense heat at that particular position in the engine bay. An offending bit
    still rolling around in the bottom of the toolbox box is now totally rigid
    and impossible to cut with a knife blade.

    Roger
     
    RG, Sep 8, 2003
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  11. Vincent

    Eddie Guest

    That reminds me: I think it's about time I bought some[1].

    Any recommendations?



    [1] Apparently, we need to fettle a certain CBR600 so it can be sold
    before we can start work on Project BoxOfDog[2]
    [2] Estimated start date: November 2002[3]
    [3] Yes, it's slipped a bit.
     
    Eddie, Sep 8, 2003
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  12. Vincent

    Lozzo Guest

    Eddie fascinated us all by saying...
    Morgan Carbtune 2. Very easy to use, and they don't break when you drop
    them.


    --
    Lozzo
    '95 Kawasaki ZZR1100D, '97 Kawasaki GPZ500S, '83 Honda CB250RS
    Big Zed Little Zed Dead shed
    New to ukrm? : www.ukrm.net/faq/ukrmscbt.html
    "He's not big and he's not called Tony"
     
    Lozzo, Sep 8, 2003
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  13. Vincent

    Eddie Guest

    Ah, yes - I remember them from last time I thought about getting some.

    Anybody know the cheapest place to get them? I see you can buy them
    direct for GBP52 - anybody better that?
     
    Eddie, Sep 8, 2003
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  14. Vincent

    Hog Guest

    I dropped by his gaff last month and had a new set away. Quite well made.
    The damping has improved, not perfect but better than the dial type and only
    really an issue on tickover. His website is his *best* price.
    It seems to be a bit of a family concern. Himself, wife and young son all
    beavering away in a small unit. IIRC it's been about for decades?
     
    Hog, Sep 8, 2003
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  15. yebbut, they don;t use cheapo petrol pipe for those... I assume they use
    metal pipes.
     
    Austin Shackles, Sep 8, 2003
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  16. Vincent

    Guest Guest

    That reminds me: I think it's about time I bought some[1].[/QUOTE]

    OK, call me tight fisted, but...

    I bought 10 yards of 1/4" diameter clear plastic tube, and put a
    U-shaped groove in a 3ft piece of 3x1, into which the middle of the pipe
    fits snugly. It also has a hole to hang it up vertically (crucial, that
    bit) Around 50ccs of best 20:50 was carefully trickled in from one side.

    One pipe goes to each carb. It's turned out to be very sensitive (read
    far too sensitive), and works a treat. Total cost: less than a fiver,
    plus a bit of time (you could use cable clips or wire to hold the pipe
    if in a rush).

    I wish I could claim some sort of originality, but the idea comes from
    one of the Airhead sites on the net. It would work for carbs >2 by
    balancing a pair, then using one of those as a reference for the rest.
    Would take longer than with a 4-dial setup, but cost much less.

    BTW, I found I needed around 6ft of "U" when starting off, until I'd got
    it settled, then could achieve +/- 3" of oil for most of the rev range.

    That was when I thought I'd re-check the valve clearances, and two
    Helicoils, two exhaust valves and four valve guides later, the rest is,
    ehem, expensive :(

    Still, should be back to re-balancing tomorrow night...


    Regards,

    Simonm.
     
    Guest, Sep 8, 2003
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  17. Vincent

    Guest Guest

    < snip >

    OK, you're tight-fisted.

    BTW: couldn't you reduce the sensitivity by using thicker oil?[/QUOTE]

    Yes - 20:20 hindsight in my case! I deliberately added a bit of WD40
    because I feared it might be too stiff. Spot the twit!

    Regards,

    Simonm.
     
    Guest, Sep 8, 2003
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  18. Vincent

    sweller Guest

    Davida. IMHO, really are worth the money. No real damping issues,
    steady on my v-twin Guzzi, even on a lumpy idle.
    http://www.davida.co.uk/gauges/index.html
     
    sweller, Sep 9, 2003
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  19. Vincent

    sweller Guest


    What is it with Halfords? I'm not having a go but IMO Halfords is the
    motor/computer equipment equivalent of Dixons.

    Go to your local motor factor, cheaper, usually better quality, greater
    range and the staff tend to be infinitely more knowledgeable.

    Try Partco (IIRC, the old Unipart chain) if independents scare you :)
    http://www.partcogroup.co.uk/branch0.htm
     
    sweller, Sep 9, 2003
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  20. Halfords is great if you know what you want - decent choice, keen
    prices.

    If you *don't* know what you want - "I need a widget for undoing the
    thingummy and then that magic fluid that cures it", then local motor
    accessory shops are the bollocks.

    Same aproach and general rule applies to big DIY superstores and
    independent ironmongers, IMHO[1].

    [1] Got any 'ose?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 9, 2003
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