Fscking greenslips!

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by DaZZa, Aug 9, 2004.

  1. DaZZa

    DaZZa Guest

    What's the fscking story with bloody greenslips in NSW?

    My bike is up for rego - just did the old MAA on-line search for
    greenslip prices - and the _cheapest_ price for my bike is more than
    $100 higher than my fscking car.

    The car weighs in about 8 times what the bike does, has a whole shitload
    more metal in it to hurt other people, and gets used a whole hell of a
    lot more - yet it's $100 cheaper to insure it for third party?

    WTF?

    How much fscking damage can a bike do to a third party? Sure, the rider
    him/her self is more likely to bite the big one, but how many _other_
    peoiple are you going to hurt - this is ostensibly what the green slip
    is for.

    What a rort. What a fscking rort!

    While we're on the subject, anyone got any suggestions for pink slips -
    Sydney, Hornsby kind of area? Where to get 'em, I mean.

    DaZZa - just amazed at how big a rip off insurance companies are.
     
    DaZZa, Aug 9, 2004
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  2. In aus.motorcycles on 9 Aug 2004 05:41:30 GMT
    Yup. they aren't based on damge you do... this argument's been had with
    MAA so often!

    Slow progress is being made... It's on the MCC's list, but we don't
    have enough suits really.

    If you have comprehensive insurance, the greenslip can go down a lot.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Aug 9, 2004
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  3. DaZZa

    Will S Guest

    Jesus, this looks similar to a post I made when my rego was due :)

    It must be that a lot of pillion passengers get seriously hurt
    because we all know that insurance companies look after us
    and wouldn't rip us of


    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36345.html
     
    Will S, Aug 9, 2004
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  4. There's a third party you haven't thought of here (and here is the kicked
    that the insurance companies use as the sting in the tail).

    A pillion. And they will get plenty injured in a rider-at-fault accident.
    Especially most of the ones I see, who tend to be young women/girls, with
    nothing more for protection than a helmet, a miniskit, and a boob-tube.

    --
    James Mayfield
    "Insert witty comment here."



    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36345.html
     
    James Mayfield, Aug 9, 2004
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  5. DaZZa

    Johnnie5 Guest

    Bring on solo rego like QLD then

     
    Johnnie5, Aug 9, 2004
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  6. DaZZa

    Biggus Guest

    register your bike interstate at a friends place,... **** NSW and ****
    Green slips
     
    Biggus, Aug 9, 2004
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  7. And yet, even when taking 3rd Party Property insurance (against damage
    you cause to someone else's property) a single seat registered 180 kg
    bike still costs more to insure than a 800 kg car.

    ---
    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    '81 Suzuki GS450-s
    '87 BMW K100RT

    www.dmcsc.org.au
     
    Peter Cremasco, Aug 9, 2004
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  8. Your Rego is about $100 cheaper than a car, so it works out much the same,
    rego interstate is not all its made out to be, you can be breaking a few
    laws about state of residence, especially if the worst happens and they
    (insurance company) proves you are not resident in the state of operation,
    they now refuse entry to heavy vehciles in NSW , that have continued to
    infringe the states laws.
    Mick Chester
     
    Michael Chester, Aug 9, 2004
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  9. DaZZa

    Biggus Guest

    rego interstate is not all its made out to be, you can be breaking a few laws about state of residence,
    Yup, but as mate has found out living in NSW for last 4 yrs with Vic
    Personalized plates on a Patrol nobody says anything.
    When I got wiped out, I was regoed in Vic, crash in NSW. Nothin said.

    Love to see em try.. too many ways round it.
     
    Biggus, Aug 9, 2004
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  10. DaZZa

    Nev.. Guest

    He said where you were resident, not where you crashed. If TAC found out that
    your vehicle was illegally registered in Victoria they would deny your claim.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 9, 2004
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  11. Ladies wear, third floor
    --
    Al

    http://www.users.bigpond.com/pennykid/alan/index.html
    "The highest form of life in the universe is Man and the lowest is a
    man who works for the post office." - Holly
     
    Alan Pennykid, Aug 9, 2004
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  12. When I got wiped out, I was regoed in Vic, crash in NSW. Nothin said.[/QUOTE]

    Heh - I got cleaned up in NSW by an ACT resident/licencee driving a
    vehicle registered and insured in Qld... No insurance problems, at least
    not on my (not at fault) end of the claim... I thnik IK had more
    problems, but thats becasue he didn't have his own insurance to do the
    chasing the at fault driver stuff for him...

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Aug 10, 2004
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  13. DaZZa

    DaZZa Guest

    Actually, I wasn't ignoring the possibility of a pillion being involved
    - but the figures for motorcycle accidents with pillions couldn't be
    anywhere near the figures for car accidents with passengers - and in a
    car crash, the damage is very rarely limited to the vehicle involved
    {how many bikes do you see writing off cars in a crash?}.

    The balance is wrong. Which is typical.

    DaZZa
     
    DaZZa, Aug 10, 2004
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  14. DaZZa

    DaZZa Guest

    Hey, you know Roly, huh?

    :)

    DaZZa
     
    DaZZa, Aug 10, 2004
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  15. DaZZa

    DaZZa Guest

    Myer or DJ's?

    :)

    DaZZa
     
    DaZZa, Aug 10, 2004
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  16. In aus.motorcycles on 10 Aug 2004 05:37:52 GMT
    There aren't that many pillion claims. And most are against a car not
    the bike. (more pillions are injured in multivehicle crashes than
    single vehicle ones. It's the being hit by big metal things what does
    the damage)

    A back of the envelope calculation Guy did a while back shows that if
    every pillion who claimed ended up with a yearly payout in the top range
    (which most of them don't get anywhere near) then the greenslip payment
    should still be a lot less than it is.

    It's basically a cash cow...

    And always has been. 20 years ago, the MRASA was able to get a large
    3rd party premium raise request from SGIO (as it was then) squashed by
    calculations like that, and the 3rd party premiums committee even said
    SGIO shouldn't be allowed to ask for a raise for some years.

    Unfortunately there's no such beast as a 3rd party premium committee in
    NSW. Nor is it free market.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Aug 10, 2004
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  17. DaZZa

    Biggus Guest

    If TAC found out that your vehicle was illegally registered in Victoria they would deny your claim.
    I was on holidays Nev.... same as anyone else would be ... :)~!
     
    Biggus, Aug 10, 2004
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  18. DaZZa

    Biggus Guest

    Doesnt everyone.. Theres photos of him on my page, been 4bin with him
    heaps.

    You still havent figured out who I is yet?
     
    Biggus, Aug 10, 2004
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  19. DaZZa

    Nev.. Guest

    Where were you living at the time? Didn't the TAC try to repatriate you back
    to your home state for rehabilitation?

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 10, 2004
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  20. DaZZa

    Biggus Guest

    Where were you living at the time?
    NSW - Vic Rego.
    Nope.
     
    Biggus, Aug 10, 2004
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