Front Plates Report

....you should have bothered reading all the way to the end of the sentence.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

to maintain.. ok, it will cost $940k to maintain. I read it.

They will make more than that per 1/4 so $940k is worth it to make
another 2.8 mil

 

He's an edificated man, Knobbo!

-----sharks (Sumer's here and the 'nazzar is sweet ...)

 

OK, you win at playing dumb. I will do all the maths for you.
The stats quoted in the report show that over a 6 month period (June-Dec
2001), 1044 photos of unidentified speeding motorcycles were taken which may
have been identifiable if the bikes had frontal identification.
So double that to get an annual figure.
2 * 1044 = 2088 speeding infringements.
That's 2088 additional speeding infringements which frontal identification
will reap per year.
Now assume that each infringement notice is for $200 (the highest non-loss of
licence speeding fine).
That is a total of $200 * 2088 = $417,600 in additional fines received.
Now compare that to the $940,000 annual cost of maintaining frontal
identification on motorcycles.
Spot the deficit.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

I don't get it

 

It's good value. (allow me to explain)

As is, they're losing $417,600.

With the front plate system in place, they'll be losing $940,000-$417,600=
$522,400.

In other words, they'll be pissing $104,800 MORE up against the wall WITH the
front plate system in place, rather than leaving it as it stands.

Keep in mind they've already pissed enough money up the wall in doing this
highly advanced mathamatics. On top of that, $100K buys you lots of ego
points, as you get to tell the media front plate this and saftey that.

Media attention is always good value.

 

That's not really correct. The amount of money pissed up against the wall is
the full $522,400. The $417,600 was never "lost" because there was never any
infrastructure or method set in place to collect this money. Even Arthur
Andersen wouldn't dare include that figure in their calculations.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:39:34 +1000

So there has to be another reason.

So, how many "fact finding trips" and "seminars" do you reckon
Transurban (or whoever it is that runs the citylink in Vic) has provided
for pollies ans senior bureaucrats? How many brown paper bags been left
on desks?

Zebee

 

Yes, but now they're getting the 417 back, where previously, they wouldn't.

Doesn't matter. "Lost" in media talk counts money you _would_ have, were it
not for whatever circumtstance. Like when business complain to the media
they've lost $X million dollars last year, where they in fact were pulling a
profit the whole time, but looking at their _projected_ profits, they fell
short by whatever amount.

He (and others) would and do.

_Expected_ profits that don't come are just as bad as losing it in the first
place. They don't just stockpile the money for a rainy day, they spend it (by
way of a loan) to cater for larger business infrastructure, stock, people etc.
If the projected profits don't come, they're just as in the shit as they
would have been if they really did lose it.

Profits that are unexpeced are not so great, because you have to pay tax on
that. The problem comes due to the fact that you've not thought of _how_ to
spend that money yet. This is where the pisssup is due, it spends huge amounts
of cash over a short period of time, structured as a writeoff, but isn't as
economical as could have been if they were expecting it.

 

Agreed. There's a pollie somewhere getting a kickback somehow.

 

Nebuchadnezzar went nuts and lived like a wild beast for a few years.
I can just envision Bracks and howard et al running around the fields
with the kangaroos.

 

Hmmm... OK.
All the public ambivalence will evaporate (and turn into animosity!

 

What they gunna use it for? Girl's hockey? Seems to be buggerall live
stuff going on these days ...

Cheers



-------------
Kevin Gleeson
Technical Director
Blue Rocket Productions
Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
www.blue-rocket.com.au

 

Jeez, that¹s a low blow, even for you!

Hammo

 

Dammit! Biggus always wins.

Theo

 

How is profit playing dumb?

 

How about 3MTA3.... if they were going to do the front plate thing
I was gonna get personalised plates with that one it cause the front
of the fazer's screen is high enough to see in rear view mirrors...

J

 

James Mayfield said....

JM> We all find an appropriate spot on the front of our bike, text to read
JM> something like "**** off speed cameras." or "Fine Free Zone" or something
JM> like that. Then, when we go through the revenue cameras at revenue
JM> generating velocity, at least someone, somewhere, will get an eyeful of
JM> exactly what we think of their ideas.

And which further enforces the views of non-riders that we're
irresponsible hoons who need be be reined in with a tight leash...

 

Zebee Johnstone said....

ZJ> So, how many "fact finding trips" and "seminars" do you reckon
ZJ> Transurban (or whoever it is that runs the citylink in Vic) has provided
ZJ> for pollies ans senior bureaucrats? How many brown paper bags been left
ZJ> on desks?

Oi! That sort of thing doesn't 'appen 'ere in Victoria. Just ask the
former members of the Victoria Police Drug Squad...

 

Morgan Vening is of the opinion:

I'll add another one - doesn't cause any permanent damage to the bike (such
as making you drill holes in the front mudguard or fairing somewhere).

Basically, it ain't gonna happen for too many modern bikes. But yeah, if it
didn't require me to fork out a pile or wreck my bike (like you'd notice
some more damage anyway <g>) I wouldn't mind it particularly. It's not like
I go through speed cameras at high speed at present anyway.

- Matt