Front Plates Report

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zekt, Oct 24, 2003.

  1. Zekt

    Zekt Guest

    Please pardon me if this was already posted.... but well worth
    a read if you haven't read it yet.

    Front Plates report for your reading pleasure:
    http://members.iinet.net.au/~bjbm/gvulysses/frontplates.pdf

    In summary:
    * Front bracket sticker
    * Gonna cost 13.4 million + 1 mill per year after that
    * People are puzzled as to why everyone else in the world can enforce
    law without
    front plates
    * Motorcycle manufacturers aren't going to cater for the Vic
    government alone
     
    Zekt, Oct 24, 2003
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  2. Errkk

    Looks like they intend to go ahead with it?

    Cheers



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    Kevin Gleeson
    Technical Director
    Blue Rocket Productions
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    www.blue-rocket.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Oct 24, 2003
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  3. Zekt

    Col Guest

    But how???
    They recognise the difficulty in implementing the system yet in the report
    recommend a trial.
    The return on the investment of the $14 million plus to implement the scheme
    is minimal in the extreme.

    Typical bullshitif if you ask me...

    cheers

    col
     
    Col, Oct 24, 2003
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  4. Dated April, 2002. Buggered if I can be arsed reading through 107 pages of
    the shit, but this looks like the report they would've compiled as
    the_ouverture_to the cirle-jerk "research" process the Vics' $50 rego
    surcharge is paying for...

    ....I still reckon all this is just a bonsai version of the scams perpetrated
    on Reagan's administration in the 80's; back then, supposed academics and
    engineers approached a government with a hard-on for sci-fi weaponry and
    said, "give us $30 billion dollars and we'll devise for you an orbital
    particle-beam cannon for you to shoot Russians with.". Now, they're nuzzling
    up to a government fixated on making supposed public safety measures a
    profitable venture and cooing, "For only $30 million, we can close off the
    last loophole in your grand vision of camera-enforced compliance."

    Forget for a second that the project has no chance of success, whichever way
    it turns out, the charlatan techies win.

    Somebody with a different set of priorities comes to power and cuts the
    purse-strings, the research team, even if they were stupid enough not to
    squirrel away massive proportions of their funding, they still get to ride
    the escalator up to the top of their industry courtesy of the "administered
    $30 million/year gov't project" on their resume. If asked about why they're
    not administering it any longer, it's a shrug and a "Oh, our funding got
    cut", to be met by a knowing sigh from the guy on the other side of the
    desk.

    Alternately, they can just go back to whoever they convinced to commission
    their work, shrug, and say, "Nah, sorry. It can't be done with the present
    technology/levels of funding".

    I still challenge anyone to point to spot on my bike's nose that will
    accomodate a number plate.
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Oct 24, 2003
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  5. Well they are talking about stickers, not plates.

    I still think it is all bollocks too ... they've obviously spent quite
    a bit on the research already though.

    I didn't read it all, read some bits in full and scanned through
    others.

    What the hell has happened to Victoria in the last few years? Talk
    about the police state, and I though NSW used to be that. Did this
    ramp up with Bracks or was it already moving before that?

    Cheers



    -------------
    Kevin Gleeson
    Technical Director
    Blue Rocket Productions
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    www.blue-rocket.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Oct 24, 2003
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  6. Ditto a sticker.
    Enough to warrant the hapless government to have to slug all riders an extra
    $50 to pay for it.
    Get back to work, Gleeson!
    I think it might've actually had its roots with a bloke by the name of
    Nebuchadnezzar... "Oh, looky here, a new technological doobie-whatsit.
    Wonder how_this_can be implemented to exert greater control over the
    rabble". In the days of the extravagantly-bearded Sumerian dude, said doobie
    would've been the whip. These days, it's CCD cameras plugged into a computer
    network...
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Oct 24, 2003
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  7. Zekt

    Nev.. Guest

    Actually that money isn't paying for anything. They started collecting it in
    Oct 2002 but AFAIK none of those funds have been spent. This report predates
    the announcement of the $50 levy.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Oct 24, 2003
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  8. :-Þ

    I am - I can't help it if computers take 3-4 minutes to render a
    frame: push render, read newsgroups and industry forums, check render
    result, make change, push render, read newsgroups and industry forums,
    check render result .... etc etc

    Cheers


    -------------
    Kevin Gleeson
    Technical Director
    Blue Rocket Productions
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    www.blue-rocket.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Oct 24, 2003
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  9. That works because your name ends in "-son", so you can sneer it in a full
    Mr Burns-voice... :)
    Fak me dead, what are you rendering?!? My home machine with its
    internal-combustion processor (it's a two-stroke; piston at BDC is binary
    zero, TDC is binary one) takes 3-4 minutes to render a frame with a moderate
    amount of antialiasing and effects dialled in...

    (as I expounded at length to young Dane over the course of the GP weekend,
    part of me's still spewing I was unable to find work as a 3D animator after
    uni...)
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Oct 24, 2003
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  10. Zekt

    Manning Guest

    Well fak, you can do mine. I've been trying to do a 3D animation of 2 gears
    at 1:2, a chain and a single OHC. I've spent a week on it and it looks like
    complete shite. (The fact that I have NO idea what I'm doing and can't
    remember my HSC maths doesn't help).

    Manning
     
    Manning, Oct 24, 2003
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  11. Well, shit, dude. You've got my email address. Pass on the specs.
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Oct 24, 2003
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  12. Actually it's a Dual 2Gig Xeon with 2 Gig RAM :) And some frames are
    taking up to 12-13 minutes. Average seems to be about 5 minutes
    though.

    It's 3DS Max 5.1 but the killer in the scenes are the it is using a
    renderer called Illustrate! that gives us a 2D cartoon look from 3D
    models. It's a bloody good little package but it blows out render
    times by miles. Calculating all the line edges and shades across
    surfaces after it has done the 3D part, I'm not surprised though. I've
    got 13 machines all PIV 2 Gig or better and it can take 2 days to get
    through some scenes ....

    Cheers



    -------------
    Kevin Gleeson
    Technical Director
    Blue Rocket Productions
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    www.blue-rocket.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Oct 24, 2003
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  13. Zekt

    Nev.. Guest

    As feasibility studies go, this one says, stick on number plates are the best
    option to cover all motorcycles if you want to do that. It also says, the
    motorcycle industry, and the motorcycling public at large will be
    uncooperative and against you the whole way and you will be pushing shit
    uphill to implement it effectively because you'll have to do it all on your
    own.

    Economically, according to the figures quoted, it's a giant black whole which
    will cost the government upwards of $940,000 per annum to maintain, in
    addition to the $13.8 million initially required to implement it, with
    anticipated increased speeding fine revenue of less than $500,000 per annum.

    The authors of the report even go so far as to state that the publicity
    generated by police and government regarding the lack of frontal
    identification of motorbikes has increased awareness amongst motorcyclists
    that they are unidentifiable to front facing speed cameras... hinting that the
    government itself is partly responsible for the increased road toll.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Oct 24, 2003
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  14. Zekt

    Nev.. Guest

    :

    **black hole**

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Oct 24, 2003
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  15. Zekt

    Knobdoodle Guest

    [sits in open-mouth awe]
    IK actually referenced Nebuchadnezzar and Sumeria in a discussion about numberplates!
     
    Knobdoodle, Oct 24, 2003
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  16. Zekt

    Knobdoodle Guest

    And the photo will be on the front of the Age/Herald and all public support will immediately evaporate!

    -- Clem
    [cynicism is all tool rampart]
     
    Knobdoodle, Oct 24, 2003
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  17. Zekt

    conehead Guest

    Where?
     
    conehead, Oct 24, 2003
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  18. Zekt

    smack Guest

    It's 3DS Max 5.1 but the killer in the scenes are the it is using a
    for the non TV people.......it's broadcast quality stuff.

    Hey Kev, you should see the new OB trailer in the garage!!!!! far canal!
     
    smack, Oct 24, 2003
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  19. Zekt

    conehead Guest

    You sound surprised! Oh ye of little faith.
     
    conehead, Oct 24, 2003
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  20. Zekt

    Biggus Guest

    it's a giant black whole which will cost the government upwards of $940,000 per annum to maintain,

    they will make that a 1/4 with speeding fines etc etc etc....
     
    Biggus, Oct 24, 2003
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