front paddock stand or whatever

my RGV250 has no stand, being of a tracky nature.

I have a Scorpion rear paddock stand, that has two little u-shaped
things that fit either side of the swing arm, and hey presto, the back
wheel's a few centimetres off the ground.

Any recommendations for either a front stand, or some other way of
getting both wheels off the ground, so they can both be removed at the
same time?

Also, I've never removed a bike front wheel before - is it easier or
more difficult than the rear?

On the one hand, there's more fannying about with 2 lots of brakes,
but on the other, there's not as much fannying about with a cush
drive, axle, chain & sprocket, spacers etc. etc.

 

It might be an idea to save up your questions and post them in batches of
twenty every hour of so ;0)))

You can lift up the front by placing a jack under the engine near the front,
you might have to remove the belly pan though. You could raise both wheels
by jacking the front up whilst the rear is on the paddock stand and then
slipping off the wheel, sticking the spindle back through and it on axle
stands. Might be a bit wobbly during the process though.

The same but different. You need to get the wheel high enough to clear the
mudguard and there are usuallly some pinch bolts near the bottom of the
forks that secure the spindle and will need loosening.

Remember to loosen bolts before lifting the bike up.

 

the bike's pretty damn light, so wobbly isn't that big a deal. I could
do without the arse-factor of removing the fairing to change a wheel,
though.

heh - I've made mistakes like that before. No doubt I will again.

 

Is there not a gap in the belly pan you could put the jack in? Could you not
create said gap with a hacksaw?

 

You want a pukka front paddock stand. First google hit :
http://www.bikersuperstore.com/product.php?xProd=578&xSec=61

Harris do them too :
https://www.harris-performance.com/...k_Stands_and_Cotton_Reels__8.html&CatalogBody

And many more...

As you've surmised - about the same. Unbolt the brake calipers, losen
the fork clamp (usually just on one side), undo spindle, remove.
Assembly is the reverse etc etc

 

Last time I use some tie-downs to suspend the VFR from the rafter in
the garage roof while on its centre stand. I have a front stand now
but I would still be tempted to use the tie-downs as back-up as I am
clumsy oaf.

 

Get a proper one, one that locates into the bottom of the lower yoke,
rather than the "removing wheel for polishing" type that balance the
bike on the tips of the fork legs. Your RGV will not fall off the
former, whereas a crash to the ground is inevitable with the latter.
Especially with Porl in your pit.

Depends. There's spacer(s), two calipers to release and a big nut to
undo as well as a couple of smaller ones, prolly. No chain to ****
about with, but. If you can do it cold, I would say easier than a
rear wheel - if you're forced to do it with smoking brakes and sticky,
melting hot rubber, the rear is easier.

There are various mods to carry out to make it a lot easier - these
would bear looking into.

 

You use a stand that supports the bike using the headstock.

Don't think so... would it?

The headstock!

You can get an adaptor for some of the rear paddock stands that allow
you to use it for exactly the purpose you specify.

Although I think that for just removing the front wheel, a stand that
supports the bike on the forks would be easier.

 

Sir wants the easy way out, Sir does; the Ultimate Solution:
http://garagepixies.co.uk/bike_lift.htm


Admittedly, a bit gash as a first attempt purely for the purposes of
producing these pics, inanurry, like. Any bike, I reckon - up in
seconds, secure as you like, and with a little development, freedom to
move around the front end. Perfect for wheel or fork removal.

Courtesy of Dick Dastardly of this parish, to whom I am indebted.

 

smashing - the Harris one looks nice.

smashing - ta.

 

I cleaned a bike today. For the first time in about 4 years. I think I'm
ready to strip the engine down now for laughs.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip

^^^^^^^^^
*Cough*

 

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Salad Dodger wrote

You'll get indegestion.

 

darsy says...

I have a workshop stand that allows both wheels to be removed at the
same time. It supports the bike in the hollow swing arm spindle each
side and the back then gets strapped down to lift the rear off the
ground. It's easily strong enough to support my T/ace. I bought it when
I had my Firestorm as that didn't have a centrestand either. back in
1998 it cost me 90 quid, but it's well made and worth the cash.

I can't remember who made it cos it was 6 years ago that I got it, but I
bought it from Tinklers M/cycles in Norwich. Maybe they can help.

 

the cont known as Pip says...

**** sakes, it's a manual lift.

 

petrolcan says...

So steal us an electric one then.

 

the cont known as Lozzo says...

**** off, I'm trying to do that for myself.

 

Abba stands do something similar : http://www.abbastands.co.uk/

 

we've yet to finalise plans, but really I don't think we're looking at
going endurance racing, in which case there's not as much need for
quick wheel changes. Obviously, changing to wets before a race would
be necessary if it were raining.

That's another thing - the RGV's currently wearing Michelin Pilot
Races - tyres I have some experience of; very sticky and
track-oriented, but still ultimately road-legal tyres. Would the
racers on here recommend sticking with something like this for actual
racing, or should be go the whole hog and try slicks?

well, see above - theoretically won't be in that situation - I mean,
in a "normal" race rather than an endurance one, you'd not be changing
tyres /during/ the race, having made the (possibly incorrect) decision
before hand to run on road-legal track tyres, slicks, wets,
intermediates or whatever.

team-ukrm did something along these lines for quick changing wheels,
didn't they, or did I dream that bit?