Front Judder...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Dynamic, May 12, 2004.

  1. Dynamic

    Dynamic Guest

    A few days ago there was a minor judder whilst I was braking on the Goose,
    but nothing major, so I thought nothing of it, just presumed it was
    something to do with the road surface.

    It happened again today but much worse. I was braking for some traffic
    lights, only from around 30mph, and the whole bike went into a judder. It
    felt like an extremely high frequency tank slapper.

    Any idea what this might be?

    Tyre's are near the wear limit, but I don't think it's them. I've thought
    that the head bearings [1] have been dodgy for a while, so I was planning on
    taking a look at them.

    The other option is the brake pads, but I think the judder made another
    minor appearance whilst I was accelerating so I don't think it is the
    brakes.


    [1]Do head bearings tend to be standard amongst different bikes, and is it
    something that a bike garage is likely to stock, as I don't wanna strip the
    bike tonight, only to go down tomorrow and find out they don't have any.

    TIA
     
    Dynamic, May 12, 2004
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  2. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dynamic"
    You've pretty much identified the likely cause - head bearings. There's
    a lot of common sized bearings in use in headstocks, so it's likely your
    dealer will have bearings for it.

    If you plan to do it yourself, it's fairly straightforward.

    Another cause might be worn sliders on the forks, but that doesn't
    usually crop up until several tens of thousands of miles have passed
    under the wheels.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 13, 2004
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  3. Pretty standard, yes.

    The bugger is if they're taper rollers, because getting the old ones out
    can be an absolute bitch.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 13, 2004
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  4. Dynamic

    Greybeard Guest

    Had similar on my BMW and Trophy.
    Both turned out to be warped braked disks.
    I'd run a dial gauge or similar round the disk's before replacing the
    bearings. Disk's are _much_ more expensive to replace, but a fecking lot
    easier IMHO.
     
    Greybeard, May 13, 2004
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  5. Dynamic

    David Thomas Guest

    So, not heard of "Sod's Law" then?

    If it's an unpopular one it will be special order only and if it's a popular
    one they would have sold out.

    Well, that's how my life goes anyway ;-)

    David
     
    David Thomas, May 13, 2004
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  6. Dynamic

    deadmail Guest

    Disks on my BMW have been warped since I bought it really. Doesn't
    bother me greatly. In fact, I've a new set of disks but think I'll save
    those until the others have worn out...
     
    deadmail, May 13, 2004
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  7. Dynamic

    Christofire Guest

    If you need to do the tyres anyway then that might be worth a look.
    I've had the SV feel a bit wobbly when on worn tyres. See:

    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=3cf4d169.172714375@ne
    ws.umist.ac.uk
     
    Christofire, May 13, 2004
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  8. Dynamic

    Christofire Guest

    From the post/thread I replied to Dynamic with, have you checked your
    tyre pressures recently?
     
    Christofire, May 13, 2004
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  9. Dynamic

    deadmail Guest

    FFS! What is this with tyre pressures.

    I have a man check them when I get them changed.

    Now and again when I push the bike if it's hard to push around I will
    prod them with a boot but that's it.
     
    deadmail, May 13, 2004
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  10. Dynamic

    deadmail Guest

    fx: Shakes head in despair.

    Kids these days.

    Even though I spose DNC's tyres get a harder time than most.
     
    deadmail, May 13, 2004
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  11. Dynamic

    mups Guest

    says...
    Quick rider is he?
     
    mups, May 13, 2004
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  12. Dynamic

    Christofire Guest

    An excellent time to check them then, to see if they're still at the
    recommended pressure, and the tyre fitter hasn't made a mistake or the
    tyre is slightly faulty.

    According to the Avon website tyre fitment guide[1] your bike should be
    36psi at the front and 42psi at the back.

    [1] http://www.avonmotorcycle.com/us/en/Fitments.asp
     
    Christofire, May 13, 2004
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  13. dwb wrote
    The mirror.
     
    steve auvache, May 13, 2004
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  14. Dynamic

    dwb Guest

    Can you give an alternative thing for me to look at to explain vague handing
    [1]on my bike?


    [1] different to normal.
     
    dwb, May 13, 2004
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  15. Dynamic

    Ben Blaney Guest

    The rider.
     
    Ben Blaney, May 13, 2004
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  16. Dynamic

    mups Guest

    dwb says...
    If its been sat not going anywhere all winter then fork seals have a
    habit of drying out and leaking.
     
    mups, May 13, 2004
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  17. Dynamic

    deadmail Guest

    Rusty rider.

    Maybe the damping adjustment is slightly different on one fork to the
    other; IIRC you recognised this in the past.
     
    deadmail, May 13, 2004
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  18. Dynamic

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    The ZZR did that in France too.
    Inferior Froggie roads. And - in my case - a shitload of luggage. ;^)
     
    Nigel Eaton, May 13, 2004
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  19. Dynamic

    Champ Guest

    The nut behind the handlebars
     
    Champ, May 14, 2004
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  20. Dynamic

    darsy Guest

    the old ones are the best, eh?

    Well, you keep telling yourself that - whatever gets you through the
    night.
     
    darsy, May 14, 2004
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