Four years jail...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG@Toil, Feb 29, 2008.

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    Cab Guest

    Wot's CBT?
     
    Cab, Mar 1, 2008
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    Cab Guest

    Apparently it's the same in France. So I've been told.
     
    Cab, Mar 1, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    Cheese & Bacon Toastie.
     
    platypus, Mar 1, 2008
  4. In the Netherlands it seems the same - almost as if the crossing
    designates a location where the pedestrian may cross rather than one
    where road traffic must give way.

    Bicycles are, of course, an exception to this, and receive far better
    treatment than pedestrian traffic.

    Neil
     
    Neil Williams, Mar 1, 2008
  5. Wrong, but never mind.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 1, 2008
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    Mark T Guest

    The Older Gentleman writtificated
    "Tests? Insurance? Sod getting a bike, I'll continue to drive in. Oh
    bugger, the place is gridlocked with cars."

    Crap in theory, crap in practice.
     
    Mark T, Mar 1, 2008
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    DavidR Guest

    Very often it is difficult to drive a door's width from parked vehicles. If
    she had opened the door in front of a passing car would you still be
    complaining?
     
    DavidR, Mar 1, 2008
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    boots Guest

    Hmm Yum but coolly if you add peanut butter
     
    boots, Mar 1, 2008
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    Cab Guest

    I remember years ago, when Simon Milward came off his bike after
    forgetting about PaD in Brussels. Fucking stupid law it is. And in
    France, it's equally stupid.
     
    Cab, Mar 1, 2008
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    Hog Guest

    You are saying in Belgium you must always give way to the minor road?
    and be able to guess the fucker is there in the first place?
     
    Hog, Mar 1, 2008
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    Hog Guest

    Sometimes & Sometime

    But my question was prefectly serious. Ok jaywalking is an American term
    but do pedo's have any legal responsibilities or not?
    As I said in this thread, I mowed one down years ago and the Beak seemed
    to think he hadn't given me due care before crossing.
     
    Hog, Mar 1, 2008
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    Hog Guest

    <sigh>
    It's the European Way
     
    Hog, Mar 1, 2008
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    Simon Brooke Guest

    Actually the only people who have a legal right to be on the public
    highway in England are pedestrians and horse riders. In Scotland
    cyclists do as well because in Scotland cyclists count as pedestrians.
    But motorists do not have a right to use the roads anywhere in Britain -
    that's why you need a licence.

    That doesn't excuse pedestrians from having the same obligations to
    respect the rule of the road as anyone else, of course.
     
    Simon Brooke, Mar 1, 2008
  14. The PaD thing has bloody nearly caught me out a couple of times, always
    in minor villages and towns where you still find it from time to time.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 2, 2008
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    Beav Guest

    But the judge did. He handed down the sentence, so you'd probably be better
    off taking it up with him.
    She killed someone. I wonder if you'd be so liberal if it was a member of
    your family she'd killed?



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    Beav, Mar 2, 2008
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    Beav Guest

    It's a moot point. It's the system we have and until someothing changes,
    it's the one we have to work with.


    I
    Noted.



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    Beav, Mar 2, 2008
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    Beav Guest

    Who knows who reads this?


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    Simon Brooke Guest

    Actually, a lot of work in cycle training is in training cyclists to ride in
    the primary position most of the time, for exactly the same safety reasons
    as motorcylists should ride in the primary position most of the time. If
    you ride in the secondary position too many motorists pass you far to close
    for safety, trying to squeeze past you without going over the white line,
    and if you ride closer in you've nowhere to go when motorists start being
    real arses. And, of course, it's critical to train cyclists to stay out of
    the door-zone - one third of all deaths and serious injuries of cyclists in
    London are the result of doorings.
     
    Simon Brooke, Mar 2, 2008
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    Simon Brooke Guest

    *newsflash*

    The Road Traffic Act 1988 /does/.

    It's about time you sat your driving test.

    HTH.
     
    Simon Brooke, Mar 2, 2008
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    Beav Guest

    I want one now.


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    Beav, Mar 2, 2008
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