Four years jail...

Fark. Never criticise someone's English on Usenet - it's a golden rule.

 

Don't we have any jaywalking type rules in the uk?

 

Less reprehensible, though.

 

Hog wibbled:

Quite possibly.

Is it not the fact using your phone is akin to driving whilst boozed up
in terms of impaired judgement?

Can you imagine the uproar if she were pissed? IMO using the phone is
exactly the same.

The cyclist was still a complete twat.

 

Well yes but there was a saving grace in this case after all.
"The **** won't get in my way"

It's definitely time for bicycles to wear number plates and carry tax
discs.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5225346.stm

 

Do (did) I need to be? 'Course not, because it was only the evidence that
got her convicted.

The judge handed out the sentence, but he didn't decide she was guilty, the
jury did that based on the evidence presented and that's good enough for me.


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Possibly the family of the numptie on the bike?


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It's loaded with other shite though. Glass, window mechs, electric motors,
side impact bars, handles, sound deadening, interior trim panels an ALL of
them below the window level. Above the window level, there's **** all apart
from a seal and a poxy bit of pressed thin metal.

One of the easiest ways to break into a car is to grab the top of the door
and bend the fucker out far enough to access the inside handle and even
spotty kids can do that without breaking into a sweat.


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Is the correct answer.


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"Door zone". That cracks me up.

Anyway, it's NOT the responsibility of the rider to give clearance, it's the
DUTY of the driver not to open the door unless it's safe to do so. Plainly,
it wasn't, so equally plainly, it's the drivers fault. Ergo, **** him/her.


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I think it's about the only thing you CAN say with certainty. If she'd
checked properly, she'd have seen him.

So what exactly did she check for? Obviously not other road users. Maybe her
lipstick, makeup or hair?

Maybe she DID check, but not (as already mentioned) particularly carefully.

What he says doesn't carry much weight though does it?


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Don't be daft. She doesn't wear lippy...

You're married to MY wife too? (Not that mine has taken out a bike rider)


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What evidence is there that she checked? There's plenty to indicate that she
didn't, but none at all to indicate she did.

Bollocks. He was riding along minding his own business when a woman blocked
his passage.

If the guy on the bike was hurt, "something" doesn't gell here because Plod
will ALWAYS check details (an on the spot "producer" if you like) if there's
an injury. If only to cover their own backs later on should things get
nasty.


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AIUI you are not allowed to walk on motorways but apart from that I
don't think so.

 

I'm not talking about the conviction. I'm talking about the sentence,
and every last detail of the evidence ought to be taken into account
when reaching a decision on that. You haven't heard all the evidence.

Precisely. No doubt about guilt, just whether the length of the sentence
was appropriate.

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You misspelled "justifiably enraged". The survivors could be rounded up,
charged with obstruction or due care, and sentenced to hard labour for the
rest of their miserable existences.

 

Different from what?

I'm the same all the time...

Anyway, here (in Norway) there is no rule requiring cyclists or
pedestrians to be capable of reading, and as for being aware of
something so complex as rules for thir behavior on roads and highways -
forget it.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6251431.stm

 

If you're riding your motorbike along a road and a car driver opens
the door and causes you to crash will you accept any part of the blame
or will you want your bike fixing by his insurers?

No proof of excess speed but the car driver says you should have
expected it and allowed more room between you and the parked cars so
you can **** off with your claim and go knock for knock. You wouldn't
go for that any more than I would.