Four years jail...

Phil Launchbury writtificated

A cyclist travelling at 3-4mph is nothing like a ped..

...Apart from similar speed, stopping distance, visibility, vulnerability..
No, nothing like! <---sarcasm

 

Manouverability, space taken up, arrogance..

Phil

 

The notion that there is a significant number of cyclists who bimble along
the pavement at walking pace is ludicrous, anyway.

 

ability to ignore traffic, insurance liabilities, taxation..

Nothing in common at all.

 

That's something I tell the wife when she's a passenger in the car.


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Beav

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Worse that a car in reality, coz car's don't hare down the pavement weaving
between peds.

Oh yes. I saw one guy a few weeks back go along the pavement past "Hampsons"
(a popular butty shop for grannies) absolutely flat out and then back he
came in the opposite direction and bugger me if he didn't come back again.
How he missed everyone I'll never know.

But that statement gives the impression they're actually capable of thinking
ahead.


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Beav

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And no-one uses phones in cars either because it's forbidden.

Issued by those wonderful people employed by the Police Service? The same
wonderful people that no-one sees anymore?


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Beav

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Cyclict obeys traffic rules shocker.


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Beav

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In this reality, hundreds more people are killed on pavements by motorists
than by cyclists, and cyclists who do 25 mph + do so on the road.

What colour is the sky in your reality?

 

You think hundreds of peds a year are killed by vehicles?

 

675 in 2006 according to http://tinyurl.com/2oy7nw.

Tim.

 

How many of those do you think were caused by people actively and
voluntarily choosing to drive along the pavement?

 

He doesn't specify a time span. Off the top of my head I think it is
something in the region of 15 peds a year killed on the pavements by
cars and about 1 every 4 years by a bike.

 

You feel that it is more important to punish people for being
deliberately naughty rather than being more dangerous.

Out of curiosity do you believe it is worse to deliberately drive at
31mph+ in a 30mph zone or ride a bike slowly and carefully on the pavement.

 

That's the total for all locations. Look at page 131 - "On footway or
verge" - 43 killed.

 

Do I indeed?

Do you do any other psychic tricks? Perhaps with a slightly greater
degree of success? Let's start with an easy one - what colour shoes have
I got on?

FWIW, I have no problem with either, if the circumstances allow.

 

My mistake. Didn't read the context of Hog's comment properly before
posting.

Tim.

 

I forgot a question mark. It seemed to be the implication of what you
were saying. So do you? If not what point were you trying to make? It
seems clear that even if cyclists do deliberately ride on the pavement
the risk that they will kill you as a pedestrian is dwarfed by that of
cars not deliberately driving on the pavement. So your point was?

 

It may have seemed to you to be. But that says more about you than about
my question. You're either confusing me with other posters or somehow
reading far more into my question than a mere clarification of the data.

No. Quite the opposite, in fact.

That pointing to the number of people killed on pavements by motor
vehicles, then loudly boasting about how "next-to-nobody" is killed on
the pavement by bicycles is utterly silly and irrelevant - even if you do
get the right number of 43 not 675 - because the majority of those will
be the result of people ON THE ROAD fucking up and losing control.

Nobody in their right mind would suggest that driving a car or riding a
motorbike on the pavement was anything other than bloody dangerous. Yet
you seem to be suggesting it's laudable for cyclists to do so.

 

They're both cunts who do that. In each case they should be going
faster.
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Makes the day a little brighter
Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
And stick them up your shiter."