For the Record.. Again

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by Bill Walker, May 9, 2005.

  1. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Reports are hot and heavy concerning Sen .. Lautenbergs's amendment to a
    Transportation Bill in Washington, today.. The good Senator has added an
    amemdment to the Bill that requires funding to cut from a very good program,
    if the states don't require helmets to be worn..

    Here's a newsflash for all you Welfare Riders in Texas.. Several of the
    advocacy groups in Texas have been warning you about this very issue for
    several years.. You've all chosen to be flip and arrogant.. Declarations of
    "I don't need no advocate" I'll make my own rules... etc. etc.. have flown
    back and forth.. Now.. you are looking it in the eyes.. dudes and dudettes..
    You can all thank each other for this furthur encroachment on your rights
    and liberty..

    Sadly.. there are many other Bills and Legislation that is in the mill and
    headed for you like a runaway locomotive.. Many of you will find your
    motorcycles parked, should some of these Bill and regulations become
    reality.. Some of you very well could be looking at the prospect of hauling
    those motorcycles to areas restricted to their use "only"... Many of you
    will be waiting for treatment in emergency rooms while your insurance
    company denies coverage of your claim, because you were engaged in "risky
    behavior"...

    Think not.. Look around you.. many of you pooh poohed at the thought of a
    Federal Law that requires you to wear a helmet..

    Helmets are not the only issues that are being addressed in this Legislative
    Session.. The Failure to Yield Bill is right up there.. That Bill says that
    if some idiot cage driver fails to yield and runs over your Welfare Riding
    ass, that he will go to jail.. How's that ? The Insurance Bill that is
    being worked on say that your insurance company will not be able to deny
    your claim because you are engaged in risky behavior.. These Bills are tied
    directly and/or indirectly to the Helmet Bill, which we are concerned
    about.. Do you like that.? What are you doing about it ?

    Restrictions on modifications to your ignition, carburation and exhaust
    systems is incorporated in a regulation by EPA.. That's about to hit us
    all.. How's that one grabbing you ?

    Wanna know why this is all coming down.. INDIFFERENCE... indifference and
    contempt for anyone who subscribes to a motorcycle advocacy group and
    supports them..

    Here is just another little "kicker" for you.. The insurance companies have
    become particularly concerned about saving their little caveat in the HIPPA
    Act.. You know .. the one that gives them the option to deny a claim, if
    they determine that you've engaged in "risky behavior".. Oh.. you weren't
    aware of that one, either ? Oh yes.. all you Welfare Riders should know
    that there are three test cases already in the courts in our country.. The
    ones who are fighting those cases are those same motorcycle advocacy groups
    that you are so contemptious of and refuse to support.. Insurance companies
    are already trying to negotiate and make a "deal" with leadership in those
    groups.. Card carrying members of those groups will be excluded from their
    "claims denying" .. How's that suit you, Welfare Riders.? Not fair..
    damned right it's fair.. If you won't stand up for your own rights and
    support those who are standing up for you, why the hell should you get a
    "free ride"..? Our state of Texas is full of the Morgan Kanes, John Morans,
    Mark Johnsons and Texdays welfare riders.. hmmm.. They've chosen to fight
    the very ones who are standing up for them and defending their rights..

    This Legislative Session has reportedly become the most contentious in many
    years.. The courage of the ones who have chosen to go to our Capitol in
    Austin to save some of the rights and liberties is beginning to become a
    heavy load.. Those brothers and sisters are tired and worn down.. Since
    January of this year, when the Legislature opened this Session, many of them
    have made trip after trip to that Capitol.. Welfare Riders from all over
    this state have criticized and scoffed .. ridiculed and tried to discredit
    them.. Fortunately for every Welfare Rider, those brothers and sisters will
    fight for your rights, much harder than you will.. Fortunately .. the
    leadership of the advocacy groups have not "sold out" like the Welfare
    Riders and thrown them to the wolves.. Careful what you wish for, Welfare
    Riders.. you just might get it..

    Your Friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, May 9, 2005
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  2. Bill Walker

    Iggy Guest

    No, Bill, they are only flippant about it where it concerns you. You are a
    shitty representative for ANY advocacy group to have. Instead of attempting
    to recruit you admonish, name call, and lie about people. And, like it or
    not, you ARE a de-facto representative of the groups you belong to....if you
    want to recruit more members, I'd suggest you keep that in the front of that
    pea-brain of yours and govern yourself accordingly. Lying, name calling,
    and making an all around horses ass out of yourself does more damage to the
    groups you represent than any amount of flippancy from the people you
    admonish. You're a joke, Walker.
     
    Iggy, May 9, 2005
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  3. not to mention the fact that a "welfare rider" posted breaking news
    about a national interest item for motorcyclists that Beewee knew
    absolutely nothing about. Beewee hasn't said that he called either of
    the Cornyn or Hutchison offices either. He's been too busy bashing
    people on usenet trying to show how impotent he is.

    poor Beewee, his last claim to fame pulled right out from under him by
    someone who doesn't go around wearing their political involvement on
    their shirtsleeve.
     
    another viewer, May 9, 2005
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  4. "another viewer"
    SNIP

    Yep, Ol' Lyin' Bill is THE reason I wouldn't join
    TRMA II when I lived in Texas. I don't associate
    with scum like him. Sick, lying, thieving,
    loudmouth punks like him bring the rest of us down
    just by their mere presence much less when they
    open their festering mouths claiming to be working
    for us. If he really gave a flying **** at a
    rolling doughnut he'd move to Austin and become a
    full time lobbyist for motorcycle rights. But he's
    a "all hat no cattle" kind of guy. No brains No
    balls and all mouth describes him EXACTLY.

    --
    Keith Schiffner
    RCOS #7
    Assistant to the Assistant Undersecretary of the
    Ministry of Silly Walks.
    "terrorist organization" is a redundancy
     
    Keith Schiffner, May 10, 2005
    #4
  5. So its Bill's fault for you not joining in the last 13 years. Oh wait Bill
    wasn't part of the organization for the first 10 years. So what's your
    excuse for those previous 10. I've been with this group since 97 and
    spouting TMRA2 stuff. You know you could have joined abate instead, its been
    around for over 30 years.
    If you didn't like either of those organizations you could have started your
    own. There are probably quite a few people out there like you that would
    have joined up. Those that don't like either organization.
    Since your no longer in Texas I can understand not joining the rights groups
    in Texas, but have you joined the ones in the state you live in now? Have
    you joined the national rights organizations and participated in those?
    I don't live in Austin either. But bikers rights concern me enough to speak
    up and make trips to Austin to see what I can do. I participate with Abate,
    Tmra2, COC, and try to work up support for these organizations. You don't
    have to be in Austin to do work for the organizations.
    Prove your not a complete hypocrite and tell us what you've done in the last
    few years about any legislative issue. I would imagine voting is probably
    the best you've ever done. All I see is excuses and no action. At least Bill
    stands up for something, besides complaining about Bill, what have you stood
    up for.
     
    Elmer McKeegan, May 10, 2005
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  6. Elmer if it were only that simple. I just got
    completely turned off by the minority of TRMA2
    like bill. YOU have always presented as the
    majority. As for ABATE...anyone who thinks a
    helmet is more dangerous than not wearing one
    isn't worth my time. I support the right to not
    wear one...but to say it's safer to not wear one
    is STUPID. It's been awhile so I don't recall
    which side of that you are on. If I stepped on
    your toes sorry, that's how I feel. I had family
    that was a for real 1% type, he wore a helmet by
    choice and while David respected those who choose
    not to he thought it was silly to not wear one.
    <sigh> I'm just not the organizing kind. That and
    as you well no I don't voice what I'm trying to
    say as well as it could be voiced.
    There isn't a MRF organizer in Montana at the
    moment and I've got too many irons in the fire
    right now to even TRY to get that started. I will
    probally be joining after I pay some dues to the
    AOBA and get some shows under my belt.
    Not yet, but with the way things have gone lately
    in Washington DC I probally will in the next year
    or so.

    SNIP
    No Excuses on my part at all. I'm not a "Club"
    kind of guy and often only join professional
    organizations because it's required. Bill may
    stand up for stuff but he does a piss poor job of
    remaining civil about it.

    Give me a Ping some time and I'll fill you in on
    the "Irons in the Fire" comment. Lets just say
    life is more than real complicated and there's not
    a thing wrong...rather it's a "what in the hell
    have my wife and I got ourselves into?" thing. But
    it's a GOOD THING. 8^)
    --
    Keith Schiffner
    RCOS #7
    Assistant to the Assistant Undersecretary of the
    Ministry of Silly Walks.
    "terrorist organization" is a redundancy
     
    Keith Schiffner, May 10, 2005
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  7. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Whew.. I never heard anyone from ABATE or any other motorcycle advocate
    group make any kind of declaration that you are describing, here.. The issue
    with ABATE and TMRA II isn't even the helmet.. It is the Law that dictates
    that you are too simple to decide whether it is needed.. In your case, I'd
    highly recommend a helmet and full body armor.. However, that wouldn't
    protect the public when a juvenile lunatic like you is loose..

    I support the right to not
    hmmm.. Where do you participate in all this support that you are talking
    about ?

    It's been awhile so I don't recall
    Don't know who this "David" fellow is.. of whom you speak.. Reads like more
    "dancing" from the Keith clown..
    Yep.. that much is very noticeable..
    Hmm... now all those danged ol' meetins' might cut into all that valuable
    time of yours, dude.. All those "irons in the fire" doesn't seem to
    conflict with all your time on usenet..
    Whoops.. all these usenet friends won't like you anymore..
    Yep. You want "civil" better read someone else.. A Welfare Rider is a
    Welfare Rider and it's time that someone calls him what he is.. He's a
    parasite that enjoys a way of life that is made possible by a group of men
    and women who will stand up and fight for that way of life.. Nitwits that
    have been getting a free lunch on their backs need to either STFU or get
    prepared to stand on their own two feet.. Motorcycle advocacy groups should
    turn their backs on morons like you and let the wolves eat you alive..
    Then stop crying and blowing all the snot about it.. That's what got you run
    out of the army .. and in hot water in Bell County..
     
    Bill Walker, May 10, 2005
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  8. Bill Walker

    BJayKana Guest

    (part of Bill Walkers nice report)
    /
    Helmets are not the only issues that are being addressed in this
    Legislative Session.. The Failure to Yield Bill is right up there.. That
    Bill says that if some idiot cage driver fails to yield and runs over
    your Welfare Riding ass, that he will go to jail.. How's that ? The
    Insurance Bill that is being worked on say that your insurance company
    will not be able to deny your claim because you are engaged in risky
    behavior.. These Bills are tied directly and/or indirectly to the Helmet
    Bill, which we are concerned about.. Do you like that.? What are you
    doing about it ?
    Restrictions on modifications to your ignition, carburation and exhaust
    systems is incorporated in a regulation by EPA.. That's about to hit us
    all.. How's that one grabbing you ? bill walker
    /
    /
    ‘‘About the Failure To Yield Bill’’, I still don't believe that
    will make any difference,one way or the other!
    I don't think folks, for the most part, deliberately run stops signs,
    red Lights. I think they (we) vehicles drivers, do it by being
    distracted. Sure there's folks, that are careless, out there, looking
    for a place to cause an accident. Yes, folks get killed or hurt real
    bad,because of the negligence of a few idiots Driving amongst us, no
    doubt. And that will never cease.
    /
    I know the consequences, can be jail time, and or high costly Fines, to
    the perpetrators, if the new Bill is put into force. But, that ain't
    gonna stop ignorance of some, out there behind the steering wheel of
    cages.
    /
    The Feds getting involved in and about the Helmet Issue, is inevitable.
    I'm kinda selfish here, cause I believe wearing helmets increases a
    Riders chance of surviving a Bad Ass Motorcycle Wreck.
    /
    It just occurred to me, in the past month, 3 adults were killed by
    either a failure to yield SOB, or a Hit and Run SOB, and the
    victims were riding bicycles. But yet, not any motorcyclist killed in my
    area, that I am aware of. lately?
    /
    I just thought, my above comments probably qualifies me as a Welfare
    Motorcyclist, I don't know! Actually I'm not sure what the description
    means, to be honest.??
    (bjay Kana)
     
    BJayKana, May 10, 2005
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  9. Bill Walker

    Iggy Guest

    (part of Bill Walkers nice report)
    /
    Helmets are not the only issues that are being addressed in this
    Legislative Session.. The Failure to Yield Bill is right up there.. That
    Bill says that if some idiot cage driver fails to yield and runs over
    your Welfare Riding ass, that he will go to jail.. How's that ? The
    Insurance Bill that is being worked on say that your insurance company
    will not be able to deny your claim because you are engaged in risky
    behavior.. These Bills are tied directly and/or indirectly to the Helmet
    Bill, which we are concerned about.. Do you like that.? What are you
    doing about it ?
    Restrictions on modifications to your ignition, carburation and exhaust
    systems is incorporated in a regulation by EPA.. That's about to hit us
    all.. How's that one grabbing you ? bill walker
    /
    /
    ''About the Failure To Yield Bill'', I still don't believe that
    will make any difference,one way or the other!
    I don't think folks, for the most part, deliberately run stops signs,
    red Lights. I think they (we) vehicles drivers, do it by being
    distracted. Sure there's folks, that are careless, out there, looking
    for a place to cause an accident. Yes, folks get killed or hurt real
    bad,because of the negligence of a few idiots Driving amongst us, no
    doubt. And that will never cease.
    /
    I know the consequences, can be jail time, and or high costly Fines, to
    the perpetrators, if the new Bill is put into force. But, that ain't
    gonna stop ignorance of some, out there behind the steering wheel of
    cages.
    /
    The Feds getting involved in and about the Helmet Issue, is inevitable.
    I'm kinda selfish here, cause I believe wearing helmets increases a
    Riders chance of surviving a Bad Ass Motorcycle Wreck.
    /
    It just occurred to me, in the past month, 3 adults were killed by
    either a failure to yield SOB, or a Hit and Run SOB, and the
    victims were riding bicycles. But yet, not any motorcyclist killed in my
    area, that I am aware of. lately?
    /
    I just thought, my above comments probably qualifies me as a Welfare
    Motorcyclist, I don't know! Actually I'm not sure what the description
    means, to be honest.??
    (bjay Kana)

    The Walkers don't know what it means either, BJay. According to them,
    unless you're involved in the same groups they are - to the level they
    allegedly are - then you are a "welfare biker". The only reason these
    groups get anything accomplished is not because of people like Bill and
    Brian, it's despite them.
     
    Iggy, May 10, 2005
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  10. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    (part of Bill Walkers nice report)
    /
    Helmets are not the only issues that are being addressed in this
    Legislative Session.. The Failure to Yield Bill is right up there.. That
    Bill says that if some idiot cage driver fails to yield and runs over
    your Welfare Riding ass, that he will go to jail.. How's that ? The
    Insurance Bill that is being worked on say that your insurance company
    will not be able to deny your claim because you are engaged in risky
    behavior.. These Bills are tied directly and/or indirectly to the Helmet
    Bill, which we are concerned about.. Do you like that.? What are you
    doing about it ?
    Restrictions on modifications to your ignition, carburation and exhaust
    systems is incorporated in a regulation by EPA.. That's about to hit us
    all.. How's that one grabbing you ? bill walker
    /
    /
    ''About the Failure To Yield Bill'', I still don't believe that
    will make any difference,one way or the other!
    I don't think folks, for the most part, deliberately run stops signs,
    red Lights. I think they (we) vehicles drivers, do it by being
    distracted. Sure there's folks, that are careless, out there, looking
    for a place to cause an accident. Yes, folks get killed or hurt real
    bad,because of the negligence of a few idiots Driving amongst us, no
    doubt. And that will never cease.
    /
    I know the consequences, can be jail time, and or high costly Fines, to
    the perpetrators, if the new Bill is put into force. But, that ain't
    gonna stop ignorance of some, out there behind the steering wheel of
    cages.

    I've had serious reservations about this Bill, in the past. There have been
    a few incidents that have convinced me that the stakes must be raised,
    somehow.. One is what I'll call the Red River Incident in New Mexico.. where
    a boy of fifteen years old ran over and killled a motorcyclist and seriously
    injured three other people.. He walked without so much as a citation ..
    Another incident happenned in Guadalajara where a car tried to cross a very
    busy main thoroufare.. he center punched a motorcycle and the biker probably
    died while being transported to the hospital.. The driver of that car jumped
    out and presented his insurance card to the police.. He was handcuffed and
    transported to jail..

    I asked the officer why the man was going to jail since he seemed to be in
    compliance with the law, with insurance, etc.. The officer explained to me
    that it is the law in Mexico .. an accident involving death, injury or
    serious property damage, the driver, determined at fault will go to jail
    while the charges to filed will be considered and an investigation is
    completed.. As long as there are vehicles moving about, there will be
    accidents .. No action will eliminate them.. My hope is to minimize
    accidents that should have/could have been prevented by a little more
    respect for other vehicles and the law.

    The underaged boy driving with a "learners permit" in New Mexico without
    adult supervision in the vehicle tragically killed and injured people..
    We'll not see justice done for the survivors of his actions, because he is
    the product of our times.. There will be no consequences to him because his
    family is "connected"..

    I don't understand your objection to this Failure to Yield Bill.. as a
    motorcyle enthusiast.. the Bill is designed to level the playing for you..
    specifically..
    /
    The Feds getting involved in and about the Helmet Issue, is inevitable.
    I'm kinda selfish here, cause I believe wearing helmets increases a
    Riders chance of surviving a Bad Ass Motorcycle Wreck.

    You don't need a law to protect your right to wear a helmet.. That choice is
    yours.. No one is advocating taking anything from you.. It seems that you'd
    take my choice to NOT wear a helmet ..from me. Helmets are not the issue..
    the issue is really whether our government has the authority to dictate
    another personal choice that is yours to make..
    /
    It just occurred to me, in the past month, 3 adults were killed by
    either a failure to yield SOB, or a Hit and Run SOB, and the
    victims were riding bicycles. But yet, not any motorcyclist killed in my
    area, that I am aware of. lately?

    The Failure to Yield Bill doesn't make distinctions about the vehicles
    involved.. it does say that if you fail to respect right of way to ANY
    vehicle, you are in violation.. The consequences are in the form of
    penalties, which may include doing time in jail.. Failure to yield right of
    way is involved in most accidents that occur.. We've got more severe
    penalties than are being asked for .. in the DUI laws on the books..
    Shouldn't we make Failure to Yield right of way, just as critical..
    /
    I just thought, my above comments probably qualifies me as a Welfare
    Motorcyclist, I don't know!

    Perhaps it does.. and you are the ONLY one who can answer that question..

    Actually I'm not sure what the description
    means, to be honest.??
    (bjay Kana)

    LOL.. It's been pretty clearly explained, by me in other threads and other
    posts.. There are other motorcyclist rights advocates in Texas, who have
    fought very hard and for a lot of years, for you rights to pursue the
    activity which you enjoy.. Maybe they can explain and clarify it much more
    clearly than I can.. ABATE and TMRA II has websites.. Sons of Liberty has a
    website.. There are various other groups .. national and state who have
    websites .. Take the time and take a look.. if you are truly concerned about
    the issues .. Newsgroups discussions will only contribute newsgroup
    definitions.. I don't recommend those very highly.. Regards..

    Your Friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, May 10, 2005
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  11. Bill Walker

    BJayKana Guest

    Bill Walker says)
    I don't understand your objection to this Failure to Yield Bill.. as a
    motorcyle enthusiast.. the Bill is designed to level the playing for
    you.. specifically..
    /
    Bjay says)
    The Feds getting involved in and about the Helmet Issue, is inevitable.
    I'm kinda selfish here, cause I believe wearing helmets increases a
    Riders chance of surviving a Bad Ass Motorcycle Wreck.
    /
    bill walker says)
    You don't need a law to protect your right to wear a helmet.. That
    choice is yours.. No one is advocating taking anything from you.. It
    seems that you'd take my choice to NOT wear a helmet ..from me. Helmets
    are not the issue.. the issue is really whether our government has the
    authority to dictate another personal choice that is yours to make..
    /
    bjay says)
    It just occurred to me, in the past month, 3 adults were killed by
    either a failure to yield SOB, or a Hit and Run SOB, and the victims
    were riding bicycles. But yet, not any motorcyclist killed in my area,
    that I am aware of. lately?
    /
    bill walker says)
    The Failure to Yield Bill doesn't make distinctions about the vehicles
    involved.. it does say that if you fail to respect right of way to ANY
    vehicle, you are in violation.. The consequences are in the form of
    penalties, which may include doing time in jail.. Failure to yield right
    of way is involved in most accidents that occur.. We've got more severe
    penalties than are being asked for .. in the DUI laws on the books..
    Shouldn't we make Failure to Yield right of way, just as critical..
    /
    Bjay says)
    I just thought, my above comments probably qualifies me as a Welfare
    Motorcyclist, I don't know!
    /
    bill walker)
    Perhaps it does.. and you are the ONLY one who can answer that
    question..
    /
    bjay says)
      Actually I'm not sure what the description means, to be honest.??
    /
    bill walker says)
    LOL.. It's been pretty clearly explained, by me in other threads and
    other posts.. There are other motorcyclist rights advocates in Texas,
    who have fought very hard and for a lot of years, for you rights to
    pursue the activity which you enjoy.. Maybe they can explain and clarify
    it much more clearly than I can.. ABATE and TMRA II has websites.. Sons
    of Liberty has a website.. There are various other groups .. national
    and state who have websites .. Take the time and take a look.. if you
    are truly concerned about the issues .. Newsgroups discussions will only
    contribute newsgroup definitions.. I don't recommend those very highly..
      Regards..
    Your Friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
    /
    /
    Bjay responds)
    -------I didnt mean for it to sound like I object to the New ''Failure
    to Yield Law''
    cause I don't.
    Actually the failure to Yield law of sorts, has been around as long as
    I can remember. I think we know that. It's really mainly about running
    through a stop sign or whatever and killing a motorcyclist, isnt it?
    And this needs extra attention, cause of so many motorcycles out there.
    I'm kinda guessing here.
    ----As far as the wearing of Helmets, not being the Issue, I also
    realize that.
    I just stated that this one doesnt concern me, cause I wear a Helmet.
    I'ts gonna be a Fed Law some day, in my opinion, regardless. It mostly
    concerns Riders that don't wear a Helmet.
    I know we're talking ''rights'' here.
    --Just like the seat Belts law, it's
    inevitable !
    ---Me being a welfare rider, I do qualify.
    I sit back on my haunches and let others do the Lip Service, sorry.
    bjay
     
    BJayKana, May 10, 2005
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    Tony D Guest

    Damn Brian, I wouldn't pass my 214 out to anyone. Would you??

    --
    Tony D
    1971 R75/5 boxer
    2004 R1150 Rockster
    Philly Hoodlum©#37
    SENS (less) LFS#38 PHS
    BS#149 FYYFMFFY
     
    Tony D, May 11, 2005
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  13. Bill Walker

    Wakko Guest

    There are plenty others. ABATE, AMA, MRF, etc, etc.
    For purely political action, MRF is good. They have alerts on hot issues
    sent via email, and seem to be the source of the AMA alert as well.
    I'm a member in MRF, AMA and more recently TMRA. I'll probably join ABATE as
    well when I can catch a meeting in Denton.
     
    Wakko, May 11, 2005
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  14. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Bill Walker says)
    I don't understand your objection to this Failure to Yield Bill.. as a
    motorcyle enthusiast.. the Bill is designed to level the playing for
    you.. specifically..
    /
    Bjay says)
    The Feds getting involved in and about the Helmet Issue, is inevitable.
    I'm kinda selfish here, cause I believe wearing helmets increases a
    Riders chance of surviving a Bad Ass Motorcycle Wreck.
    /
    bill walker says)
    You don't need a law to protect your right to wear a helmet.. That
    choice is yours.. No one is advocating taking anything from you.. It
    seems that you'd take my choice to NOT wear a helmet ..from me. Helmets
    are not the issue.. the issue is really whether our government has the
    authority to dictate another personal choice that is yours to make..
    /
    bjay says)
    It just occurred to me, in the past month, 3 adults were killed by
    either a failure to yield SOB, or a Hit and Run SOB, and the victims
    were riding bicycles. But yet, not any motorcyclist killed in my area,
    that I am aware of. lately?
    /
    bill walker says)
    The Failure to Yield Bill doesn't make distinctions about the vehicles
    involved.. it does say that if you fail to respect right of way to ANY
    vehicle, you are in violation.. The consequences are in the form of
    penalties, which may include doing time in jail.. Failure to yield right
    of way is involved in most accidents that occur.. We've got more severe
    penalties than are being asked for .. in the DUI laws on the books..
    Shouldn't we make Failure to Yield right of way, just as critical..
    /
    Bjay says)
    I just thought, my above comments probably qualifies me as a Welfare
    Motorcyclist, I don't know!
    /
    bill walker)
    Perhaps it does.. and you are the ONLY one who can answer that
    question..
    /
    bjay says)
    Actually I'm not sure what the description means, to be honest.??
    /
    bill walker says)
    LOL.. It's been pretty clearly explained, by me in other threads and
    other posts.. There are other motorcyclist rights advocates in Texas,
    who have fought very hard and for a lot of years, for you rights to
    pursue the activity which you enjoy.. Maybe they can explain and clarify
    it much more clearly than I can.. ABATE and TMRA II has websites.. Sons
    of Liberty has a website.. There are various other groups .. national
    and state who have websites .. Take the time and take a look.. if you
    are truly concerned about the issues .. Newsgroups discussions will only
    contribute newsgroup definitions.. I don't recommend those very highly..
    Regards..
    Your Friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
    /
    /
    Bjay responds)
    -------I didnt mean for it to sound like I object to the New ''Failure
    to Yield Law''
    cause I don't.
    Actually the failure to Yield law of sorts, has been around as long as
    I can remember. I think we know that. It's really mainly about running
    through a stop sign or whatever and killing a motorcyclist, isnt it?
    And this needs extra attention, cause of so many motorcycles out there.
    I'm kinda guessing here.
    ----As far as the wearing of Helmets, not being the Issue, I also
    realize that.
    I just stated that this one doesnt concern me, cause I wear a Helmet.
    I'ts gonna be a Fed Law some day, in my opinion, regardless. It mostly
    concerns Riders that don't wear a Helmet.
    I know we're talking ''rights'' here.
    --Just like the seat Belts law, it's
    inevitable !
    ---Me being a welfare rider, I do qualify.
    I sit back on my haunches and let others do the Lip Service, sorry.
    bjay

    The only reason anything is "inevitable" Bjay, is if we allow it to happen
    to us.. Running stop signs and red lights are a form of failure to yield..
    The laws are on the books and warrant a citation.. or less.. The Bill that
    is being proposed in our Legislature suggests more severe penalties be
    imposed.. Originally.. this Bill was proposed under a different name.. "Kill
    a biker, go to jail". That Bill wasn't acceptable because of the name.. Most
    believed that it only pertained to Bikers.. Since then .. it has been
    altered and changed somewhat..

    You have mentioned the bicyclists that have been killed in your area.. Maybe
    you should be aware that various leaders of TMRA 2 and ABATE have visited
    with the organized bicycle clubs in Texas and appealed for their support for
    this and other Bills which they will benefit from.. They have shown no
    interest and outright rejected the appeals ..

    The insurance Bill that is waiting for Committee Hearing is asking the
    Legislators to clean up the provision in the HIPPA Act which allows the
    insurance companies the discretion to deny a claim because the claimant was
    engaged in risky behavior..

    The Helmet Law says that one of the exclusions for wearing a helmet, is the
    requirement for the rider to provide a hospital and medical policy ..
    Doesn't this seem to be a contradiction to anyone who thinks about it.. Why
    be forced to buy an insurance policy that will deny any claim ?

    TMRA 2 and ABATE, as well as others are petitioning our government to level
    the playing field for you and everyone who shares in our enjoyment of our
    motorcycles.. The support that you offer is dictated by your own personal
    abilities to provide, nothing more..

    As a non-member you are welcome to attend their meetings and participate in
    their activities. You are invited to engage as much as you can afford..
    Nothing more.. Nothing these organizations do is limiting or restricting any
    of your rights.. On the contrary, they fight to provide you with the
    freedoms to pursue your motorcycling interests on the most level playing
    field that can be won..

    A handful of critics of TMRA 2 and ABATE.. base their objections and
    non-support of them, to a dislike for one Bill Walker.. That is just another
    excuse and not a legitimate one.. I've become a member of TMRA 2 during the
    last three years.. I've become active and support ABATE, although I am not a
    member.. I do support both groups with my work and whatever I can do.. You
    might ask .. what was those critics excuse five years ago ? or four years
    ago.. Surely they had one, or twenty.. don't you think.?

    No one is getting their arms twisted to join TMRA 2 or ABATE.. One of the
    most respected officers in TMRA 2 told me recently .. "If I have to twist
    his arm to join me, I don't think I need him to watch my back".. How true
    that statement is.. Regards Bjay

    Your Friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, May 11, 2005
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  15. Bill Walker

    Calgary Guest

    I think it is fair to expect those who do not speak up for their
    rights or get involved in their community to lose their whining rights
    if they do not like how things unfold. That being said there are many
    ways to maintain and improve our quality of life, some that do not
    involve motorcycles. There are too many issues and not enough time to
    be actively involved in all of them and folks should be respected for
    the time they devote to non motorcycle concerns.

    I agree with your basic premise, if you are not involved STFU, but the
    definition of being involved should include all of the good work one
    can do to improve their community.

    Now I do not live in Texas or the US so I have no dog in your local
    fights but I will say supporting the TMRAII would be very difficult
    for me, when I see a few of your more vocal members denouncing and
    degrading other members of our riding fraternity.

    For the record I have always been active in all political levels and
    am a card carrying member of my political party of choice. Further I
    am actively involved in a national committee exploring the possibility
    of enacting similar legislation in Canada to your ADA, specifically to
    the sections that would impact handicapped children. It is very time
    consuming and I pay my own expenses to travel to the various meetings
    held across Canada. The rewards, if we are successful, will improve
    the quality of life for 17% of our citizens.

    Considering all I do and have done to improve the quality of life
    enjoyed in Canada, I find it offensive to be called a "welfare biker"
    by one of the TMRAII's most visible spokespersons, simply because I am
    not actively involved in your fight to protect riders rights.

    I am sure there are riders living in Texas who are actively involved
    making their community a better place to live, who have been verbally
    abused by your membership and will not support your organization
    because of the actions and image presented by a few of your more vocal
    and visible members.

    Your membership is a reflection of your organization and has a direct
    impact on the financial and volunteer support given to your cause.

    --


    Don Binns
    RCOS# 7

    2000 - Yamaha Venture Millennium Edition

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    Calgary, May 11, 2005
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  16. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    No one is responsible for driving you anywhere, Albert .. You've been a
    parasite on someone for your entire life.. IMO..
    Good grief.. Are you insane as well being infantile.. ??
    Nurick.. this comment says it all.. You are a bottom feeder.. obviously..
    The contempt you have just expressed says it all.. Fortunately .. you are
    limited to usenet and can not be considered any kind of threat to anyone..
    Yessir.. I'd say that is accurate.. LOL.. Matter of fact. I am considered
    rather mild amongst some of the old timers in TMRA 2 and ABATE.. Some of
    those old warhorses would take you apart ..
    My.. My.. ain't this a hoot.. Albert Nurick is being "rubbed the wrong
    way".. Good..
    We finally get to the guts of your problem, don't we ? Sorry .. Nurick..
    won't work.. Everyone who knows me is well aware that I've offered to leave
    TMRA 2 and not look back.. in a heartbeat.. Why would that be such an issue
    with you, anyway.? Give it up .. Nurick..
     
    Bill Walker, May 11, 2005
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  17. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    You were right in you opening of these comments, before you commenced all
    your own horn blowing.. You have no idea what you are talking about and no
    dog in this fight..What you do in Canada is your own affair and this Texan
    could care less.. Getting involved in this little fracas on behalf of such a
    deadbeat as Albert Nurick doesn't indicate that you are much more than him..
    You are welcome to butt out, when it suits you..
     
    Bill Walker, May 11, 2005
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  18. Bill Walker

    NZMSC Guest


    I agree with you, Iggy.

    Those crashes are usually not consciously caused by the
    driver. The problem lies in their subconscious.

    And if there are enough little old ladies put in jail through
    the Failure To Lead bill, that bill will be changed back real
    quick.

    And, by then, any chance of the introduction of sensible
    change based on changing attitudes and skills *before* the
    tragedy, rather than hitting people with a big stick *after*
    the tragedy, will have flown out the window.

    I get thoroughly sick and tired of kneejerk idiots who don't
    understand nor know enough about road safety problems and
    then try to use a sledgehammer to peel an orange.
     
    NZMSC, May 11, 2005
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  19. Bill Walker

    Iggy Guest

    Actually, Allan, that wasn't me it was BJay.....But I do agree with what
    you're saying
     
    Iggy, May 11, 2005
    #19
  20. Hey all he has to do is ask. He never
    asked...anyway you ninny all you have to do to
    protect the SSN is white it out. But then again a
    lying grunt like brian would claim I stole someone
    else's. Here's a reminder for people WHY Brian
    will rot in hell and I wont.


    Halfway down the trail to Hell,
    In a shady meadow green
    Are the Souls of all dead troopers camped,
    Near a good old-time canteen.
    And this eternal resting place
    Is known as Fiddlers' Green.
    Marching past, straight through to Hell
    The Infantry are seen.
    Accompanied by the Engineers,
    Artillery and Marines.
    For none by the shades of Cavalrymen
    Dismount at Fiddlers' Green.
    Though some go curving down the trail
    To seek a warmer scene.
    No trooper ever gets to Hell
    Ere he's emptied his canteen.
    And so rides back to drink again
    With friends at Fiddlers' Green.
    And so when man and horse go down
    Beneath a saber keen,
    Or in a roaring charge of fierce melee
    You stop a bullet clean,
    And the hostiles come to get your scalp,
    Just empty your canteen,
    And put your pistol to your head
    And go to Fiddlers' Green.



    --
    Keith Schiffner-Red Leg, Cav and Medic. Which
    means I made the worst and cured the worst and
    rode through it all.
    RCOS #7
    Assistant to the Assistant Undersecretary of the
    Ministry of Silly Walks.
    "terrorist organization" is a redundancy
     
    Keith Schiffner, May 11, 2005
    #20
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