Follow up (It's Finished)

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by Bill Walker, May 27, 2004.

  1. Bill Walker

    Brian Walker Guest

    John, you're not that old to have "have been involved with the Baylor
    College of Medicine in clinical research for over 30 years, as well as
    having experience in the clinical and pathology laboratory" on a scale
    from "working in the field". If you are trying to claim you've "worked
    in the field", you would've had to have started when you were...15? 16
    years old if you started AT 30 years ago and depending on how you
    arranged your birthday and start date to work. Granted, there ARE some
    kids who don't work the typical fast food places for their first jobs,
    but going straight into the medical field as a "clinical research
    psychologist" at 16?

    I'd have to ask you, John, in what capacity was your "experience"?
    Tell the truth now. I'll be more than happy to pull up your health
    records to see if you were being treated for drug abuse...or worse.
     
    Brian Walker, May 29, 2004
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  2. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Again.. are you very sure ? Who is the "someone else" you refer to ?
    Assuming... hmmm.. that I am the one you are "referring to".. would you
    care to address the specific "lies" that have been posted regarding you or
    anyone else ? Yep.. there's been quite a bit of "threatening" going on..
    LOL.. Yahoo Messenger has got a pretty complete archive of this entire
    episode.. Shall we consider what is inside that medium ? Treachery is a
    double edged sword..
     
    Bill Walker, May 30, 2004
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  3. Bill Walker

    Oma Guest

    I'm glad you received them in the spirit in which they were offered.
    Cool. In what capacity? Well, since you've got over 30 years going, it
    probably makes more sense to ask "In what capacities"?
    Actually, I didn't inquire -- but that's ok. I'm curious now. :)
    Maybe, maybe not. I vaguely recall a study years ago that showed pretty much
    the same long term statistical outcomes for those receiving and those not
    receiving treatment: 1/3 deteriorate, 1/3 stay about the same, 1/3 improve.

    Exactly my point. In fact, I would say the same about ANY disorder.
    No "but's" on the diagnosis issue.
    "Symptoms" presumes attempts at diagnosis.
    I have followed this group for quite some time and I respectfully disagree.

    If you sincerely believe an individual is a danger to self or others as a result
    of mental illness, there are other things you can do. Any mental health
    professional knows this. Any health professional SHOULD know this.
    "Antisocial behavior" has been exhibited from several different quarters. I
    think we tend to excuse the behaviors of those love and understand. The rest .
    .. .
    I think so.

    Oma
    -- Walk with many, follow The One.
    (to email, change nospam to w000023)
     
    Oma, May 30, 2004
    #23
  4. Cool. In what capacity? Well, since you've got over 30 years going, it
    probably makes more sense to ask "In what capacities"?[/QUOTE]

    A complete answer would take several pages, so here's an abbreviated
    version. My father came to Houston to serve as Harris County
    Toxicologist in the 1950s at the county's Jeff Davis Hospital, after
    doing post grad work in chemistry research at UCLA. While working as
    HC Toxicologist, he also continued his research and development work in
    diagnostic testing. Consequently, I grew up around laboratories and
    medical/forensic/ clinicians, researchers and physicians of all sorts
    and spent many years traveling to American Society of Medical
    Technologists, American Association of Clinical Chemists and College of
    American Pathologist meetings all over the US. By age 15, I was working
    in the instrument R&D department of the company, doing electrical
    breadboard subassembly as summer work for the head electronics design
    engineer. I was also doing instrumentation demos on the exhibit floor
    for the pathologists and chemists at the professional association
    meetings described above, which meant I had to understand the science
    involved as well as they did so I could answer their questions about the
    instrumentation and chemistries being developed. By 21, I could setup,
    repair, calibrate all the analyzer systems and train operators for all
    of the blood chemistry and cell instrumentation. I was then based in
    Chicago and a few years later was assigned Canada as a region, from
    Vancouver to Nova Scotia with 3 others working in hospitals. labs and
    clinics with the now computerized systems. Around 1978, the State
    Deparment was making efforts to balance the trade deficit with Japan
    under Jimmy Carter and one of the areas the US had a lead was in
    clinical laboratory instrumentation. I was made the coordinator for our
    contributions to that effort and it was a real experience dealing with
    both our gummint and the Japanese at that time. We sold the company in
    1979, and with my years of technical background I went on to other
    interesting fields of endeavor, while of course staying involved with
    the research foundation that I now manage fulltime. I coordinate with
    our Scientific Advisory Committee which is composed of members of the
    medical teaching/research staff at BCM who evaluate the annual
    submissions for our research grants. We have had very good success with
    the research work done over the years and have been published in such
    publications as the Journal of Biological Chemistry, Molecular and
    Cellular Biology, Endocrinology, and many others. That's barely
    scratching the surface and that's all I intend to do in this forum. Who
    here wants to discuss the diagnostic implications of elevated blood
    levels of Creatinine Phosphokinase isoenzymes or Aspartate
    Transaminase? Not me, this ain't the place for it. I will recommend
    using gloves when changing old motor oil, though. Most people here will
    understand that.

    *******
    Maybe, maybe not. I vaguely recall a study years ago that showed pretty
    much
    the same long term statistical outcomes for those receiving and those not
    receiving treatment: 1/3 deteriorate, 1/3 stay about the same, 1/3
    improve.
    *********

    The pathology and pharmacology of brain chemistry has moved quickly over
    the past few years, and new maintainence therapies can dramatically
    improve the quality of life for those suffering various disorders. More
    and more is learned about imbalances and aging effects and how those can
    be arrested and even reversed in some cases. The advances in pathology
    are astonishing but they usually are not seen outside of the clinical
    research world.

    As to the rest of it, everyone has an opinion and they are entitled to
    theirs, right or wrong. I base my opinions on my experiences over years
    dealing with all sorts of clinical and forensic situations and when I
    see something that fits a pattern familiar to me from those experiences,
    I'll comment upon it. What anyone does with those comments is up to
    them, much like using gloves or not while handling known carcinogens.
    It's their decision to make, not mine.
     
    another viewer, May 30, 2004
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