That only really applies to front fog lights innit? -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l. Really, Sprint 1.7 Ducati Monster 600 Metallic www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
AOfucking L -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l. Really, Sprint 1.7 Ducati Monster 600 Metallic www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
100m according the to Highway Code at least that's when you should be using fog lights (and only then) -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l. Really, Sprint 1.7 Ducati Monster 600 Metallic www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
I was wondering about this, since whenever I've followed cars with fog lights, they seem to produce a huge red ball of light in the fog. Hardly parallel to the ground.. -- John SV650 Black it is and naked
I've had a ponder too ... I have wondered that too, you know. I reckon sweller has the real-life answer in that it would be difficult to achieve separation distance between brake and fog lights unless every bike had an arse end the size of the Starship Enterprise ... looks onto patio, observes RF ... as you were then, nothing to see here ;-) However. In my humble opinion, fog lights - front and rear - are the work of Satan inasmuch as no fucker knows how, or when to use them. I've been driving vehicles with rear fogs since 1986 and have intentionally used them three times: Once on the M6 at midday in fog so thick that tail lights were invisible from 20 feet, rear fogs from about 100 feet. Everybody was driving very carefully at 25-30mph, rear fogs ablaze, keeping as far apart as they dared - so that the lights of the car in front were just on the edge of visibility. All three lanes were full of drivers doing exactly the same thing and I expect that their palms were as sweaty as mine. Once going over the Pennines in dense fog and heavy snow at midnight, again at 20 mph, alternating giggling and shitting myself all the way. Once going over Dartmoor on an otherwise clear and sunny August afternoon, when it was like driving through milk. I have seen thousands of cunts switching rear fogs on when they are manifestly not required - on damp motorways in nose to tail traffic, creating a wonderful pretty pink glow that blinds every driver behind - and has the dual effect of obscuring brake lights and causing following drivers to brake when they catch a glimpse of fog lights, assuming they are brake lights. Not to mention the cunts that turn them on for whatever reason and leave the bastard things on for weeks. They should be on an ignition-controlled circuit that resets to 'off' every time the engine is switched off, or even a time delay jobbie like heated rear screens, which automatically switches off after 15 minutes. I can see the point of having them, however - when you're on a deserted motorway in the wee small hours and fog descends, rear fog lights might just stop the BMW projectile piloted by a pissed, stoned, knackered rep who has had his foot on the floor for the last hour ramming you up the chuff - but I do wonder how many lives these things have contributed to saving - against the number of accidents they have contributed to, And don't start me on the front fog 'cruising/driving' light brigade.
<puzzled> It is a projector headlight. Identical to the main beam light next to it. Or are you referring to the sidelight, which used to be a Ford Consul 375 reversing light many moons ago, now equipped with a 5W bulb?
No the headlight. You mentioned it had a beam cut off which satisfied MOT. I wondered if that was a fog pattern?
No, it doesn't look like it. It yields an oval spread with a horizontal cutoff at the top only, provided by a piece of metal between bulb and lens, as is the way with projectors. It doesn't spread widely enough to conform to a fog pattern(1) nor does it cut off at the bottom of the spread. And it is non-functional atm. Thanks for reminding me, I'll have to sort that tomorrow. Arse. 1. I used to have two fogs under the bumper on my old road rally car, angled inwards across the car which would light up the verges when cornering on the handbrake - the only way to see round corners ;-)
If there's endless traffic going to the right and nothing coming to the left then I'd do it. I see it as immediatly starting to filter.
Though he is right with respect to front fog lights..... -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l. Really, Sprint 1.7 Ducati Monster 600 Metallic www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
Mine have been used a little more often than that, but maybe once or twice a year, tops. It depends, of course, where you live and your driving habits. Incredible how most of them seem not to notice innit? I'd be happy with headligh controlled. Turn the headlights off, and the fogs go off, and *stay* off until relit. Wankers, all of them -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l. Really, Sprint 1.7 Ducati Monster 600 Metallic www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
Aye, I'll go for that - iirc a Transit (or was it a Volkswagen) van I hired had it set up just that way, with the rear fog switch effectively being another notch on the end of the switch, as it were: the rotary switch had to be pulled out to illuminate the rear fogs. That was OK in itself, however the warning light for 'rear fogs on' consisted of a microscopic orange LED in the switch itself, which lit up a tiny bulb icon on the switch. The switch being at the extreme right hand end of the dash meant that the warning light was hardly in the driver's line of sight. How about making the warning light more obvious, akin to the hazard warning light flashy red thing? That might control the fuckers.
My old Citrus BX had exactly that. The final notch was a *deliberate* movement through the gate (as it were), so that you couldn't accidentally put them on. Damn good idea, why don't all manufacturers do that? -- Stritchy CX1100 'Ermintrude' BPoD (tm Pip) HOC#14808 BOTAFOT#129 COFF#23 MiB#17 two#52 BREast#4 BOTAFOF#44 eat SPAM to e-mail
In that case, why have I seen so many shiteold (dusty blueandrust, usually) Renaults and Citroens with French plates indicate to move out - and then keep the indicator flashing all the time that they are over the white line? A peculiarly French habit ime, that istr you acknowledged some time ago.
One of the old Merc coupes had a switch that set the headlights flashing on and off on main beam, presumably for outside lane work... -- Platypus - Faster Than Champ VN800 Drifter, R80RT, Z200 DIAABTCOD#2 GPOTHUF#19 BOTAFOS#6 BOTAFOT#89 FTB#11 BOB#1 SBS#35 ANORAK#18 TWA#15
I think that cars with two rear fogs tend to have them on more often than those with a single fog on one side - presumably they're embarrassed by the asymmetry. This doesn't seem to be a problem for the cruising light brigade - I see lots of them running two driving lamps but only one functional headlight...# -- Platypus - Faster Than Champ VN800 Drifter, R80RT, Z200 DIAABTCOD#2 GPOTHUF#19 BOTAFOS#6 BOTAFOT#89 FTB#11 BOB#1 SBS#35 ANORAK#18 TWA#15
