FOAK - Windows 98 help

SteveH bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
lines of:

What a load of bollocks.

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Because once you've opened up Photoshop and started playing around with
some images, the swapfiles have filled your drive.

It's happened to me even on my 40gb drive - I filled it to a couple of
gigabytes of free space, started up Office, started up Photoshop and
Internet Exploder and started getting low drive space messages.

For the cost of a drive these days, there's no excuse to be struggling
on with such a small amount of space.

Even my ancient Powerbook 5300 has more drive space than that.

 

Exactly, and as such nether rocket science or very heavy on resources.
What was the typical spec Win98 machine in 98?

I've run a Linux web server and IRC server off a machine with 128 meg
ram and a 120 meg hard disk. If you're careful and know what you're
doing, you don't need the bloat.

 

I'm not doing DTP, I'm using it as a lot of home users would these days.

Marina has already said she uses Photoshop and Painshop Pro - these are
applications that need a fair bit of drive space - opening up a couple
of million pixel digital image will soon produce a 'scratch' file that
fills the remaining free space.

 

<checks what I'm currently running>

This is on a P4 1.8Ghz Compaq laptop - 512 RAM, 20GB hard drive, broken into
6gb primary, 14gb secondary :
1x SQL Enterprise manager
1x SQL Query analyser
3x PcANywhere Control Windows
1x Terminal Service Window
1x Outlook 2003 (8 emails open)
3x Windows Explorer
1x Photoshop, 8 images open
4x Excel 2003 Spreadsheets
1x Windows Media Player 10
1x SQL 2000 database service
1x SQL 2005 database service
1x Visual Studio Enterprise.
Lots of other stuff.

and I have no drive problems, error messages or undesirable behaviour.

So you're talking rubbish again.

 

And how much free space do you have on the primary and secondary
partitions?

My reckoning is that you also have _significantly_ more physical memory
too, this also helps.

 

SteveH bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
lines of:

That's not really the point though, is it? If Marina properly manages
her free space, then there is no need to buy a bigger drive. The phrase
"You need a bigger drive" is nonsense.

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I've got 512mb ram and have a fixed swapfile of 900mb, to stop the drive
getting all munged about (can be a pain with digital video capture when it
drops frames).

I've only ever had strange low-memory symptoms when doing pretty complex
renders, when the computer can fill the memory quite quickly, then start
overfilling the swapfile too. Normally, I have no problem though, even
when running several programs.

 

1gb on Primary, 6gb on secondary.

100mb of 512 free - but your original statement was that you need a big hard
drive, not about memory.

 

Are we still talking about Win98?

Because, if we are, then Win98 has all the room it needs,
and more on two > 1Gb drives.

 

Then surely something that will make the machine *lots* happier is
more memory, not more disk space...

 

That's current, after all the swapfile and scratch space has been taken,
I'd have thought, if you've just checked it out now.

You use less drive space for swapfiles if you have more physical memory.

 

I think we've now moved onto memory, BICBW.

I expect we'll be on to needing a new electricity supplier shortly.

 

Thrilling news.

 

I haven't seen dwb advising you about stacking shelves.

 

Jeez. My mum has stopped confusing harddrives and memory.

New mouse?

 

Blimey - what astounding logic What's your point? I have a drive half
the size you were apparently recommending, running _way_ more applications
then a home user would normally - without problem.

I am aware of that. However that doesn't mean you need a bigger drive.
If you have 1.5gb free (which somewhere in this thread I think Marina said
she had) then that is _more_ than enough for doing things.

Also, as intimated elsewhere, buying more MEMORY would be the better
solution - not buying a bigger hard drive.

 

OK, let's muddy the waters a little. I've just loaded a 593,840 KB (579
MB) Photoshop image (the largest one we have) on a system with 1 Gig of RAM.

Before loading

Disk free = 191,103,605,760 bytes
RAM used =171 MB

After loading
Disk free = 190,222,540,000 bytes
RAM used = 646 MB

Over to you lot for interpretation ;-)

 

William Grainger wrote:
shortly.

oooh dunno... might not be compatible.