FOAK: Volume

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Cane, Sep 14, 2004.

  1. Cane

    ogden Guest

    You keep banging on about this. A litre is a unit of volume. One litre
    of water has the same volume as one litre of air, in exactly the same
    way that one pound of feathers has the same mass as one pound of lead.

    If he was asking what _mass_ of water could be held within that cylinder,
    you might have a point. But he didn't, and you're starting to get very
    repetitive in an "I'm a smart arse and I know better" kind of way.
     
    ogden, Sep 14, 2004
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    Robbo Guest

    Try this calculation then
    Consider a circle of radius a (the end of the tank) and imagine that
    the liquid has reached height h, measured from the lowest point on the
    circle. Note that 0 <= h <= 2a. The area A of the segment of the
    circle covered by the liquid is:

    A = pi*a^2/2 - a^2*arcsin(1-h/a) - (a-h)*sqrt(h(2a-h))

    The volume of liquid is just A*L, where L is the length of the tank.

    OK !!!


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    Robbo, Sep 14, 2004
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    gomez Guest

    First time I mentioned it. And the point is still being missed.
     
    gomez, Sep 14, 2004
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  4. Depends if it's hollow, and how hollow it is, obviously.
     
    Whinging Courier, Sep 14, 2004
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    PeterT Guest

    Cane
    No worries. One question, one answer. As you didn't ask
    how to calculate this, I didn't bother typing out long equations,
    and still getting them wrong as so many others here. ;-)
     
    PeterT, Sep 14, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    What a very IBM answer.
     
    Muck, Sep 14, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Cane says...
    None if it has no bottom.
     
    Lozzo, Sep 14, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

    Hardly, the first question IBM might ask is whether there is anything
    else in the cylinder before the water is added.

    and then it'd be a question of whether that item floated...

    and then...

    <breathes out, and thinks of far away places>
     
    Ginge, Sep 14, 2004
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    tallbloke Guest

    Temperature and pressure?
     
    tallbloke, Sep 14, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    I was thinking along the lines of totally correct but useless answers.
     
    Muck, Sep 14, 2004
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    Steph Guest

    They're going to be bloody heavy - approx 992 pounds or almost 71 stone
    each. I hope they're not planning on standing them on some cheap display
    unit or on an unstrengthened floor.

    Shame they'd be crap for keeping fish, or I'd ask you to make some for
    me too - surface area is too small <sulk>
     
    Steph, Sep 14, 2004
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    mups Guest

    Ginge says...
    IBM would insist that you use their hugely expensive dihydrogenoxide
    rather than 'ordinary' water.
     
    mups, Sep 14, 2004
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    platypus Guest

    Weight could be cut substantially by putting a smaller cylinder inside, with
    about a 1" gap all round, and only fill the space between the cylinders with
    water. This will give you a cylindrical shell of water - if they're
    planning to bubble air through, for instance - and a dry core for lighting
    or display. In fact, you could run all sorts of interesting lighting
    effects on the inner cylinder a la perspex dinosaurs.
     
    platypus, Sep 14, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    mups says...
    and then...
     
    Lozzo, Sep 14, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    You don't understand - though Cane will have, having heard me expound
    on this theory: all quantities are "some" and all foreign money is
    "things".
     
    Ben Blaney, Sep 15, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    That'll be the "Blaney code".
     
    Muck, Sep 15, 2004
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    Mark Olson Guest

    If you'd said ~460 litres you wouldn't be wrong, but 462 is a
    wrong answer.

    olsonm@debian:~$ echo '4*a(1) * (650/2)^2 * 1400 / 10^6'| bc -l
    464.56301364959067513431
     
    Mark Olson, Sep 16, 2004
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    tallbloke Guest

    Do keep up at the back!
     
    tallbloke, Sep 16, 2004
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    Wizard Guest

    OY!

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    Wizard, Sep 16, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    FFS find the snipping wizard, will you? It is becoming tiresome
    having to scroll through a screenful of quoted text to find your
    single-line addition at the bottom.
     
    Pip, Sep 16, 2004
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