FOAK: Unemployment benefit

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Mar 31, 2005.

  1. The Older Gentleman

    SP Guest

    It didn't help at all, actually, and most of it is totally irrelevant
    to TOGs question.

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    SP, Mar 31, 2005
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  2. The Older Gentleman

    SP Guest

    If he did that, he wouldn't be able to claim anything for 6 months
    unless there was a specific [1] reason for it. I don't think 'I wanted
    to go to France on my bike' comes into the category, somehow.

    [1] Along the lines of medical, ie through stress, and even that would
    have to be proven before he would receive any benefit.

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    Lesley
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    SP, Mar 31, 2005
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    joe parkin Guest

    joe parkin, Mar 31, 2005
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  4. The Older Gentleman

    joe parkin Guest

    Anyone who has paid into the system should get it out when needed, so I
    agree with you, but some people are proud and think they are better for
    not claiming.
     
    joe parkin, Mar 31, 2005
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  5. The Older Gentleman

    SP Guest

    Apparently they can get a bit arsy if you don't make a claim (even if
    you don't want the money) as they like to know what has happened to the
    NI contributions.

    A friend of mine got a nasty letter once in relation to this, she was
    'too proud' to claim but the state wanted to know what had happened to
    her NI contributions. She informed them that she was unemployed at
    that point in time and didn't want to draw benefits. [1] Her answer
    provided no end of problems as they wanted her to prove what had
    happened to her contributions since x date to x date.

    Of course, as she was still living in the house she was born in it
    wasn't too hard to track her down. Bear, on the other hand, seems to
    move quite regularly.

    [1] After all, it just wouldn't become someone who lived in
    Blundellsands to actually go to the BA in Waterloo to make a claim.
    What *would* the neighbours think.

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    SP, Apr 1, 2005
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  6. The Older Gentleman

    joe parkin Guest

    Dunno what that means, but the social society (sic) told me during the
    84 strike, that my whole life would be ruined by not paying NI
    contributions. Pigs.
     
    joe parkin, Apr 1, 2005
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  7. The Older Gentleman

    SP Guest

    NI is National Insurance, it isn't a 'pot' you put into that you can
    then reclaim later on. NI goes into the the state fund (apparently) to
    sustain the NHS and similar.

    You can claim benefit from the day you leave school, ergo you have
    never paid into the 'pot' in your life. For 12 months you can claim
    unemployment benefit (UB40), after 12 months you go onto Income Support
    which is a lower rate of benefit again.

    Depending on your circumstances though, you can still be better off on
    IS or UB than getting off your arse and going to work. Being single
    and without kids means you may as well go out to work, because the
    state isn't interested in keeping you. And besides, you may as well be
    in work and helping to subsides the scroungers that have kids and can't
    be arsed to get out and look for a job because they are being given
    enough in benefits to make getting a job a waste of time.

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    SP, Apr 1, 2005
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  8. The Older Gentleman

    SP Guest

    Don't NI contributions go into the Pensions pot, too? Ergo, if you
    weren't going to pay towards NI either by working or claiming and
    having the state contribute on your behalf then you jeapordise your
    state pension fund later on.

    Ergo, even if you don't want to claim it is best to at least sign on
    because all your contributions are on record, whether it was you or the
    state that made them on your behalf.

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    Lesley
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    SP, Apr 1, 2005
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  9. The Older Gentleman

    SP Guest

    Just spoken to her downstairs about this, depending on payouts etc
    determines if you are entitled. But you still need to go through the
    protocols.
    Should've spoken to either herself downstairs or FJ, shouldn't you?
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    Lesley
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    SP, Apr 1, 2005
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  10. The Older Gentleman

    SP Guest

    I have a feeling this sort of conversation has gone on in the past wrt
    claiming benefits, or even signing on in order to attain the NI
    contributions that go towards the State Pension.

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    Lesley
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    SP, Apr 1, 2005
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  11. The Older Gentleman

    SP Guest

    Be very careful there, if they realise within 7 years of providing you
    with money you were not entitled to they can claim it back. Works the
    same way with ex-employees who have been over-paid, too. Only 2 years
    to go before her downstairs can squander her extra pay that she didn't
    work for :eek:)
    Indeed it is. Actually, for the fortnight I was unemployed I didn't
    receive a penny, but I couldn't be arsed to chase it up. At least my
    NI contributions were up to date though :eek:)

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    Lesley
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    BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
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    SP, Apr 1, 2005
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  12. The Older Gentleman

    petrolcan Guest

    the cont known as Anton G=3Fsen says...
    Why has it taken so long? Or is Ferger right?
     
    petrolcan, Apr 1, 2005
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  13. The Older Gentleman

    petrolcan Guest

    the cont known as says...
    <snip>

    Do you really know what autistic means or are you reading from a
    dictionary again?
     
    petrolcan, Apr 1, 2005
    #53

  14. ?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 1, 2005
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  15. The Older Gentleman

    Ben Guest

    I wasn't casting any asparagus, I was simply stating my material
    circumstances.
     
    Ben, Apr 1, 2005
    #55
  16. The Older Gentleman

    Ben Guest

    Ah. Krusty lists it as a definite.[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, I might have to see if I can get it retrospectively. Three
    months payments into my council tax (by direct debit) is a fair wedge.
     
    Ben, Apr 1, 2005
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  17. The Older Gentleman

    Ben Guest

    Too bloody right. I nearly didn't get my JSA last year because it
    turned out that my previous employer hadn't been paying my NI
    contributions despite deducting them from what little wages I actually
    got.
     
    Ben, Apr 1, 2005
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  18. The Older Gentleman

    TOG Guest

    Yup, we found that when The Doctor was doing her doctorate. What was
    even nicer was finding that she also qualified for the studeny discount
    on lift passes in French ski resorts.
     
    TOG, Apr 1, 2005
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  19. The Older Gentleman

    gazzafield Guest



    Bear's have feelings too!
     
    gazzafield, Apr 1, 2005
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  20. The Older Gentleman

    Krusty Guest

    So do apostrophes...
     
    Krusty, Apr 1, 2005
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