FOAK: Stress

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by platypus, Jul 21, 2004.

  1. platypus

    platypus Guest

    The husband of a friend is having a problem at work. His boss has been off
    for a month or so, and his employers have had him covering both jobs. He
    hasn't been able to cope, and has been bottling everything up, misleading
    customers etc. Sometime last week, he had a little bit of a breakdown.
    He's now signed off for a couple of weeks, and has been prescribed sleeping
    pills.

    He could cope again if he was back doing his original job, but the company
    seems to be short of management at his boss's level. It has recently been
    taken over by an American outfit. His salary is slightly better than what
    he'd get working in a shop, but not by much.

    Presumably he's okay signed off sick for a few more weeks, but what are his
    rights here? Is this something that would be classed as an industrial
    injury? Are the new owners likely to aggressively look to get rid of him?
    My view, btw, is that he should be looking for a better job, but he should
    actually be returned to work before applying for anything.
     
    platypus, Jul 21, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    I'm not sure, but I've ended up doing two jobs and get paid for one, so I
    don't think it's uncommon.

    <shrug>

    It's only work

    </shrug>
     
    dwb, Jul 21, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    I managed to do one job and get paid for two. Only for two weeks,
    mind, but it was nice all the same.
     
    darsy, Jul 21, 2004
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    Eiron Guest

    I expect his wife will need some /sympathy/ as well. :)
     
    Eiron, Jul 21, 2004
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    Mark W Guest

    You don't say what he has been offically signed off with, but assuing
    "work related stress" or some such...

    I'm certainly not an expert in this, but have some very limited
    experience.

    <caveats over>

    If the cause of the stress / sickness was due to his working
    environment, and when he returns the company have done nothing to
    remedy the situation, and expect him to continue, they are not taking
    due care. If he then suffers more harm, then this could have been
    reasonably forseen. He might try leaving and claiming "consructive
    dismissal", but he should take professional advice first.

    I also believe he needs to inform his company of this issue, since he
    has a duty of self care.


    This is all probably completely wrong though!
     
    Mark W, Jul 21, 2004
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    TMack Guest

    SNIP!

    Walker v Northumberland County Council (1995) - the High Court ordered
    Northumberland County Council to pay damages to an ex-employee. The Court
    held that as employers they had a duty not to cause their employee
    psychiatric damage by giving him too much work and/or insufficient back up
    support. The general principle is that an employer is usually entitled to
    assume that the employee can withstand the pressures of the job. However, if
    it is reasonably foreseeable that there is a risk of injury (which must be a
    clinically recognisable condition) due to stress at work then the employer
    owes the employee a positive duty to make the working environment less
    stressful.

    The important issue is that the employer needs to have been made aware of
    the potential damage. He should make it clear that his current problems are
    due to excessive workload and that it is causing him damage (his current
    medical problems). Citing Walker v Northumberland County Council (1995) may
    help focus his employers minds on finding a constructive solution to the
    problem.

    Tony
     
    TMack, Jul 21, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    platypus says...
    Paging Nidge
     
    Lozzo, Jul 21, 2004
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    HedgeHog Guest

    When I was signed off work with depression and stress my company actually
    provided me with a therapist of sorts (she was actually very good). The
    company paid for this and accepted the illness with no problems. They also
    paid sick pay by way of full normal salary. I was never penalised for it by
    the company, but my boss did his best to ensure my life was hell. I would
    suggest that your friend looks for a new job at the level he's happy with
    and get out of his current job even if it means never going back. FWIW my
    personal life improved no end as soon as I was out of that job and I've been
    off the anti-depressants for a couple of months now. Quality of life, imho,
    is the most important thing.

    Sick pay varies from company to company. Larger companies tend to be more
    generous than smaller companies as SSP (claimed back from the IR) is very
    basic and only lasts for a short time, (I'm on the wrong computer to check
    just now but I do believe the max it lasts for 6 weeks from the IR, I could
    be wrong here as I can't check just now, but have a look at the inland rev
    website). So he should be ok for a few weeks. If he can prove it was purely
    work induced then he may have a claim against the company.

    hth
     
    HedgeHog, Jul 22, 2004
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