FOAK: spinning backwards

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mash, Aug 20, 2004.

  1. It's the way the eye is meant to work - your eye is more sensitive to
    flickering/movement in the peripheral vision so that you don't get
    surprised by sabre-toothed tigers creeping up on you.
     
    Attilla the Hungry, Aug 21, 2004
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  2. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember "TMack"
    Bloody hell. VHF eyesight.

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    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 21, 2004
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  3. Mash

    Eiron Guest

    That should be *twice* the frequency.
     
    Eiron, Aug 21, 2004
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  4. It happens that Rexx formulated :
    The problem was the florescent powder on the inside of the tubes dimmed
    sufficiently between the 100Hz pulses of energy of the sine wave, to be
    a problem.

    Each phase is 120deg out by the other two, which means that the 100Hz
    (50Hz) flashing will cancel each other out always assuming the three
    banks of lights are in close enough proximity to each other.

    It is not much of a problem these days if electronic ballasts are used,
    as these work on a much higher frequency, independant of the mains
    frequency.

    Ordinary bulbs do not suffer the problem as the filaments are not able
    to cool down to the point of dimming to produce a strobing effect.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Aug 21, 2004
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  5. Mash

    Rexx Guest

    *snip*

    Gotcha - I wasn't sure if it was to prevent motors jamming or somesuch
    either, by having coils on multiple phases - as you often get appliances
    that only run on 3 phase, but of course, that could just be for the reason
    above in that they're only for use in appropriate work environments.
     
    Rexx, Aug 21, 2004
    #25
  6. Rexx formulated on Friday :
    I understand the off centre parts (peripheral) of the eye are more
    sensitive to motion (flicker), they are also more sensitive to light.
    Night fighter pilots during the war were reported to be able to see
    dimly lit targets much more easily with their peripheral vision.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Aug 21, 2004
    #26
  7. After serious thinking Rexx wrote :
    3ph supplies to motors is for several reasons....

    They are more efficient, more compact, cheaper to build, can be built
    in much bigger sizes than single phase ones and start much better
    against a mechanical load. Generally, anything over a few HP would be a
    3ph.

    The electrical supply authorities also much prefer large loads to be
    equally balanced on the 3phases as it is much more efficient for them.

    In domestic environments, they generally aim to balance things out by
    supplying each house with a different phase. No 1 would be on red
    phase, No 2 on Yellow, No 3 on blue, No 4 on red and so on up the
    street. The 'balance' wire, being the nuetral. If the single phase load
    balancing has been done correctly, there will be little current flowing
    down the nuetral core and out in the street this might well be half the
    size of a phase core.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Aug 21, 2004
    #27
  8. Mash

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Harry Bloomfield
    They also have the endearing quality of being able to be
    "plug-reversed". You can switch two of the phases over whilst the
    thing's running and it'll stop dead and start to run backwards.

    Bloody handy in a machine tool motor, is that.
     
    Nigel Eaton, Aug 21, 2004
    #28
  9. And now you know why all cockpits were put on sideways after 1944.
     
    Phil Kyle Usenet Anti-Christ, Aug 22, 2004
    #29
  10. Backpedalling a speciality of yours?
     
    Phil Kyle Usenet Anti-Christ, Aug 22, 2004
    #30
  11. How I hate dim bulbs.
     
    Phil Kyle Usenet Anti-Christ, Aug 22, 2004
    #31
  12. Beam me up, Harry!
     
    Phil Kyle Usenet Anti-Christ, Aug 22, 2004
    #32
  13. Be still! and revere Phil Kyle Usenet Anti-Christ, who blessed us with their
    presence on 22 Aug 2004...
    LOL!

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    "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with
    the rod, he shall not die." -- Proverbs 23:13 (AV)
     
    Vicar Peter Parsnip, Aug 22, 2004
    #33
  14. Mash

    Rexx Guest

    I think one of the astronomers here said they (astronomers) are often
    taught to try to observe stars with their peripheral vision, too.
     
    Rexx, Aug 22, 2004
    #34
  15. Mash

    Pip Guest

    That's where yer rods are, innit.

    "Rods are designed for night vision and the detection of motion and
    objects. They also provide peripheral vision, but they do not see as
    acutely as cones. Rods are insensitive to color. When a person passes
    from a brightly lit place to one that is dimly illuminated, such as
    entering a movie theater during the day, the interior seems very dark.
    After some minutes this impression passes and vision becomes more
    distinct. In this period of adaptation to the dark the eye becomes
    almost entirely dependent on the rods for vision, which operate best
    at very low light levels. Since the rods do not distinguish color,
    vision in dim light is almost colorless."
     
    Pip, Aug 22, 2004
    #35
  16. Mash

    Pip Guest

    Don't point the finger at me, young Simian. Those quote marks, see -
    the information was cut and pasted from the first approximate google
    link. Near enough, I thought.
     
    Pip, Aug 22, 2004
    #36
  17. Mash

    Pip Guest

    Take it up with Encarta.
     
    Pip, Aug 22, 2004
    #37
  18. go@fish (Vicar Peter Parsnip) wrote in
    I suspect he is old and fat and possibly half Canadian.
     
    Phil Kyle Usenet Anti-Christ, Aug 22, 2004
    #38
  19. When I was at the Uni of Kent @ Canterbury they 'upgraded one set of
    squash courts. The Uni 'works' dept weren't allowed to put in the bright
    lights they wanted because they were too expensive / used too much power
    and others were chosen for them by the financial people there.

    They put in mercury discharge lamps ( I think )

    The effect for a large number of players including me was that I was
    trying to hit, not a squash ball travelling across the court, but a
    series of black 'dashes' with long gaps in between. Only a few people
    used the courts until they put proper lights into them.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Aug 22, 2004
    #39
  20. Mash

    ah Guest

    Eh!
     
    ah, Aug 22, 2004
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