FOAK: Speakers

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by mike. buckley, Jul 12, 2009.

  1. Following our house move we now have our jukebox in the same room as my
    5.1 speakers - ideally I'd like the jukebox to use these speakers. I
    can't see anyway of putting it through my amp (jukebox has it's own amp)
    so I need to come up with a way of cabling two inputs into the front 2
    5.1 speakers. All I think I want is a simple switch box but they all
    seem designed for single inputs to multiple outputs, and I want to go
    the other way.

    Anybody know anything that will do the job?
     
    mike. buckley, Jul 12, 2009
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  2. mike. buckley

    Eiron Guest

    Yes.

    One of my amps had a switched mains outlet. I used this to drive a pair of DPDT relays that switched
    both signal and ground from two speakers to either amplifier.
    I actually used 12v relays and a 12v psu but you could use 240v relays if you like to live dangerously.
    So whenever the AV amp was switched on, it got the speakers.

    You could do the same manually with two DPDT switches.
    Of course this method doesn't address the subwoofer issue.
     
    Eiron, Jul 12, 2009
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  3. The sub wouldn't be an issue as the jukebox is stereo only. No switched
    mains output though so irrelevant in this case.
     
    mike. buckley, Jul 12, 2009
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  4. mike. buckley

    Eiron Guest

    You could use one of those 'intelligent mains blocks'
    which switch the other sockets on when the device in the first socket is switched on.

    Or you could just buy a 4PDT switch and put it in a box with some speaker sockets, e.g.
    http://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/1m41t1b5m1qe/switch-solder-tag-4pdt-on-on/dp/1550192
     
    Eiron, Jul 12, 2009
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    If they're just a simple switch box, wouldn't it work the other way
    around anyway?
     
    Andy Hewitt, Jul 12, 2009
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  6. I did think about that and it might be worth a try but most of them have
    ohm ratings so not sure if that would affect it.
     
    mike. buckley, Jul 12, 2009
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  7. That looks useful - I think I'd need two though - one for each speaker?
     
    mike. buckley, Jul 12, 2009
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  8. There will certainly be an output from the j/b tone arm you could put
    through a pre-amp or your own inside the j/b or maybe the pre-amp in the
    j/b will allow a take-off from its output and then you could supply that
    to your amp.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 12, 2009
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  9. mike. buckley

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Hmm, they *shouldn't* have anything in them, in theory, you'd want the
    cleanest path through that you could get.

    ...... <Googles>.....

    Ah, yes, I see now, they seem to do impedance matching, and one product
    on the Maplin site does have same QAs that confirm they do work
    backwards, but will load the amp.

    Nasty things, why on earth do such a thing. You'd spend how much on a
    decent bit of cabling, then stick a shite box of electonics in the way!

    I think the trouble is that most of the commercial boxes don't fully
    isolate the pairs, so you can get some cross-talk too. I'd be inclined
    to make my own with fully isolated switches, either DPDT switches, or a
    dual channel rotary switch.

    As already suggested, probably best got from CPC.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Jul 12, 2009
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  10. mike. buckley

    Eiron Guest

    No. A 4PDT switch will do for both speakers.
    Or you could use 2 DPDT (Double Pole Double Throw) switches.
    And you should switch both sides of the speaker in case
    you use it on an amp with a bridged output.
     
    Eiron, Jul 12, 2009
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  11. mike. buckley

    Eiron Guest

    Not usually. You are likely to blow something up.
    The last switch box I looked into put both speakers in series
    and shorted one or the other out.
     
    Eiron, Jul 12, 2009
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    Nige Guest

    Break before make switch.

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    Nige,

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    Honda ST1100 Pan European (comes this week)
     
    Nige, Jul 12, 2009
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  13. mike. buckley

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    OMG.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Jul 12, 2009
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  14. So it will have enough connections for 4 pairs of inputs (2 from juke, 2
    from amp, a total of 8 connections) and 2 pairs of outputs and will keep
    them "in line" so the amps 5.1 signal output doesn't get sent to both
    speakers on the output?
     
    mike. buckley, Jul 12, 2009
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  15. mike. buckley

    Eiron Guest

    Yes. 12 pins on a 4PDT switch.
    The wiring should be pretty obvious.
     
    Eiron, Jul 13, 2009
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