FOAK: Sound-proofing.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Krusty, Nov 11, 2005.

  1. Krusty

    Krusty Guest

    If one wished to install a potentially noisy toy such as a milling
    machine in one's (very big) garage, how would one go about keeping the
    neighbours happy at least cost?

    I presume building a sound proof(ish) room around said machine would be
    the way to go, but out of what?

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    Egg boxes. Without the eggs
     
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    Do they really work then? I have a limitless supply of catering sized
    egg trays thanks to SO's cafe, so it would certainly be a cheap
    solution!

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    I don't know how true it is but they are supposed to work. The music
    rooms at school[1] had a similar looking arrangement and they seemed to
    work[2].

    1 . This was a while ago.
    2 . Couldn't hear any shite drums or guitars in the room next to them.
     
    Gav, Nov 12, 2005
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    platypus Guest

    Egg flats will slightly improve the acoustics, but they'll do jack for
    soundproofing.

    At a guess, a lot of the sound will escape as vibrations through the floor
    anyway.
     
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    Gav Guest

    But the real question is do you like the neighbours? If not **** 'em.If
    you do[1] then a mill in the garage won't be a to much trouble.

    1. They supply the beer at the bbq.
     
    Gav, Nov 12, 2005
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  8. Generally, mass is what you need for sound proofing. You could also look
    at isolating mountings for the machine. What part is the noisiest, the
    rumble of the machine running, or the noise it makes removing metal?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 12, 2005
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  9. Krusty

    Guy Fawkes Guest

    if it chatters "cut the speed and increase the feed"
    (hopefully you know what I mean)

    I mention that because it ain't just acoustics from the mill head you
    need to consider, most of the annoying to neighbours stuff is likely to
    go through the bed / mountings / floor.

    if it was me...

    railway sleepers, cheap and wood is hard to beat, especially if rubber
    mounts are used between the sleepers and mill bed.

    for acoustic insulation hard to beat two layers of foam with a lead
    sheet suspended between them, the foam absorbs any movements induced in
    the lead by the sound waves and damps it down, and lead itself doesn't
    "ring" like a sheet of steel would.

    a lot cheaper and prolly pretty damn good would be six inches of
    builders foam, whatever you use make sure it's swarf proof
     
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    Molly Guest

    Just tell them that you have a milling machine and if they need any milling
    done you'll give them discount.

    What miller did you get?
     
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    Scraggy Guest

    Molly wrote:
    them discount.
    Home application? Miller Lite.
     
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    Krusty Guest

    I do quite like them, yes. Plus the bloke on one side's a plumber who's
    saved me a fortune in the past, so I /really/ don't want to piss him
    off.

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    I don't know tbh. It was the metal removing that I was worried about,
    but the rumbling could be worse I s'pose.

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    I was thinking of getting a bunch of engine mounts to attach it to.
    Initial thought was ply walls & roof lined with a few inches of foam. I
    s'pose a ply/foam/ply sandwich for the floor might help too.

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    Krusty Guest

    I haven't yet. It's just a 'Plan B' at the moment. I'm having some
    prototype widgets made as we speak, & if all goes well, they'll be
    going into production. However if I've got the design a bit wrong, it'd
    be easier to tweak things myself rather than sending stuff back & forth
    to the fabricators.

    More importantly it would be faster, which has become an issue as of
    yesterday, as it looks like I'll be making an "and so the world turns"
    post come the end of January.

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    Audible sound can be reduced by suggestions elsewhere, as Egg boxes etc.
    Also the green underlay used under laminate flooring is quite effective.

    Physical vibration can be an issue as various "rumbles" will affect
    differing areas so isolation from the ground can be achieved by fitting.
    A chat with these people may help

    http://www.vibrationisolationproducts.com/


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  18. Acoustic mounts are more than just any old rubber/metal sandwiches.
    Well, that's all they are mostly, but ykwim.

    You can get properly designed ones for the weight of the machine and the
    expected vibration, off the shelf from various suppliers.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 12, 2005
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  19. They're good, they are. I'm sure I dealt with them 20+ years ago for
    genset mountings. Very helpful.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 12, 2005
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  20. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Krusty
    You probably won't have too much of a problem. I run a Bridgeport in my
    garage and you really can't hear much from outside when it's running.

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