FOAK: selling tat

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by darsy, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. darsy

    darsy Guest

    Say you have a fairly tatty ZX-7R (for example), with a scrape race
    fairing, dent in the tank, only one mirror, busted speedo cable. It's
    largely road legal (needs a very friendly MOT station or a legal end-
    can), but isn't taxed or MOTed or anything like that. It works, and
    goes well for what it is, but you just don't want it any more.

    What's the best disposal route:

    a) tidy it up, get the dented tank fixed, the fairing sanded and
    respray and source a decal kit, then get it MOTed and taxed and sell
    as a road bike.

    b) try and flog it entire as a track bike (obviously for less money
    than a), but with no costs to get it ready to sell)

    c) try and break it and sell it as spares

    d) something else?

    opinions gratefully received.
     
    darsy, Sep 26, 2007
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  2. darsy

    ogden Guest

    Option c on a truly knackered 7R with no substantial bodywork fetched
    about 1600 quid less fees and P&P expenses (kept to a minimum by
    recycling old boxes, etc.) and I still have the exhaust and tank in the
    garage.

    I reckon the margin from option a, the sale price from option b, and the
    final take from option c, will all amount to about the same, but only
    one requires no effort.
     
    ogden, Sep 26, 2007
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  3. darsy

    antonye Guest

    I would choose this route, but that's because I quite
    like doing that kind of thing and have the space to
    do it in and the contacts to get stuff I need sorted
    for decent prices.
    This could work but if I was looking for a trackbike
    I would still want something that looked ok. To me
    a trackbike is a road going bike with all the road
    bits removed and some aftermarket fairing fitted rather
    than something that has been down the road a few times
    so looks a mess.
    Is a good idea if you have the know-how to break it
    into bits that people want, the space and tools to
    do it as well as the patience to part things out over
    a long period of time. You may end up with quite a lot
    left over that nobody wants anyway.
    Give it to me and I'll sort it for you. You can then
    pay me a (negotiable) %age of the sale price.
     
    antonye, Sep 26, 2007
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  4. darsy

    Hog Guest

    Can you imagine Darsy going to the trouble of breaking it and running lots
    of ebay auctions?

    A single auction for the bike as it stands seems the sensible option.
     
    Hog, Sep 26, 2007
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  5. darsy

    antonye Guest

    Good observation, that.
     
    antonye, Sep 26, 2007
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  6. darsy

    darsy Guest

    hmm. 1600 quid is around what I have expected it to sell for as a).

    What colour's your tank, BTW?
     
    darsy, Sep 26, 2007
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  7. darsy

    darsy Guest

    I can imagine myself doing the auctions, but other than:

    wheels
    frame
    engine
    plastic bits
    seat

    I'd be reluctant to know how to brake it down further :)
    it's certainly the easiest option.
     
    darsy, Sep 26, 2007
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  8. darsy

    TOG Guest


    This one. No question. Involves a bit of work, mind. I reckon to
    dispose of an entire bike, right down to the last washer, in three
    weeks.

    Week One - the stuff you *know* is in the want. That means the engine,
    if it's a runner. You have to show it's a runner, so keep it in the
    frame and plumbed in, explain that the winning bidder will be able to
    see and hear it running, and can then help you remove it. Advertise it
    as collection only - very important. Two people can hoick out almost
    any bike lump in under an hour. Other stuff - clocks, brakes, exhaust,
    seat, bodywork that gets easily busted, radiator and cooling fan
    (which you'll be removing anyway when you get the engine out), etc
    etc.

    Week Two - Second Division stuff. Forks, rear shock and linkages,
    bars, switchgear, electrickery like CDI and reg/rec, flasher unit,
    wheels, mudguards, indicators, the dinged tank. Rear subframe, if it's
    bolt-on.

    Week Three - everything else. You'll now have a frame and logbook and
    a pile of unsaleable crap like old nuts & bolts and odds & sods.
    Advertise this as one lump, again on a buyer-collects basis, and start
    it at 99p. Some likely lad will kindly relieve you of it all.

    Job done.
     
    TOG, Sep 26, 2007
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  9. darsy

    darsy Guest

    if you're on for it, this is fine for me - I'm in no particular rush
    to free up the cash, but I'd rather it was doing something other than
    just cluttering up Ken's garage. What sort of % are you talking about?

    It's not *that* bad to look at - everything from the tank backwards is
    fine, IYSWIM. And there's nothing really broken about the fairing -
    it's just a scuffed race fairing, supposed to be all black. The dent
    in the tank is fairly small too.
     
    darsy, Sep 26, 2007
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  10. darsy

    darsy Guest

    [snip]

    whilst this sounds fine in theory, I have neither the free time, the
    expertise, and - most importantly - the inclination to get this done
    in a reasonable time frame.

    I've no idea how you take an engine out of a bike, for example.
     
    darsy, Sep 26, 2007
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  11. darsy

    antonye Guest

    Not much to be honest, say 20% as a guide.
    I can get the plastics and paintwork done for virtually nothing.
    Turning it back into a green ZX7 with a sticker kit wouldn't be a
    bad thing either. I imagine that it would need a good tidy and
    some cleaning and then you'd end up with something pretty desirable
    rather than just a space filler in MCN Bikemart.

    I'm over at Ken's tomorrow so will take a proper look at it
    and see what needs doing.
     
    antonye, Sep 26, 2007
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  12. darsy

    TOG Guest

    The market being what it is, and with winter coming on, I think you'd
    be lucky, and it will definitely cost a lot of money.

    As (b) I could see it making a grand.

    As a breaker, it might run to as much as two grand, depending on the
    quality of the bits.
     
    TOG, Sep 26, 2007
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  13. darsy

    darsy Guest

    darsy, Sep 26, 2007
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    Beav Guest

    You just unbolt and remove anything that's close to the motor until all
    that's left *is* the motor. Then you find the mounting bolts and undo 'em.
    Like TOG said, about an hour if two people are going at it.


    --
    Beav

    VN 750
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    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Sep 26, 2007
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  15. darsy

    TOG Guest

    OK, if you can get it to this standard, then yes. But it'll still cost
    a lot to do it (that is an exceptionally nice one), which will eat
    away at your return. The tank fix and the fairing repair and the
    respray/decals could rush you up to £400 alone. Less, if you know a
    good friendly body shop/sprayer, mind. Paging Beav?
     
    TOG, Sep 26, 2007
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  16. darsy

    darsy Guest

    good plan.
     
    darsy, Sep 26, 2007
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  17. darsy

    TOG Guest

    Well, fairy nuff. This way would get you the most money, though, for
    sure. And as Beav says, it's not hard - you just need someone with you
    to hold your hand, as it were. But if time is a constraint....

    I see from your other post, now, that you can get the cosmetics sorted
    for next to nowt. That changes things slightly.
     
    TOG, Sep 26, 2007
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  18. darsy

    ogden Guest

    Green, with the 'Ninja' logo on each side and an unsubtle dent in the
    corner.

    Want a stock exhaust system too, mister?
     
    ogden, Sep 26, 2007
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  19. darsy

    ogden Guest

    Taking a bike apart, aside from removing the engine, is a piece of piss.
    If I can do it with the ropey set of tools in my garage, tangoman
    certainly can.
     
    ogden, Sep 26, 2007
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  20. darsy

    ogden Guest

    I borrowed a special tool called a Bonwick.
     
    ogden, Sep 26, 2007
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