FOAK question - sprocket bodge ideas

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pete Fisher, Sep 9, 2007.

  1. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    If one wanted to significantly gear down, and the font sprocket was
    already the smallest obtainable, and no larger rear ones were listed,
    one would simply have a one-off large alloy rear sprocket made up.

    If, however, the original sprocket was a steel item with built in
    'bosses' which transmit the drive, how might this be achieved?

    (Very small) illustration from parts list shows what I mean.

    http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pickchurs/sprocket.jpg

    The ideal solution would result in the ability to bolt on standardish
    alloy sprockets.

    Would this be even remotely feasible.?


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  2. Pete Fisher

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    It's feasible if someone makes a quick-change system for whatever bike
    it is, like the one I've got on the MV[1]. If not, you could get a
    carrier made to take the quick-change sprockets currently available,
    but I doubt it'd be cheap.

    [1] http://www.ferracci.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=345

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  3. Pete Fisher

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    Doesn't necessarily need to be quick-change so long as I end up with a
    larger sprocket (subject to the constraint of clearance on the single
    sided swinging arm). I could gear back up at the gearbox sprocket if
    required. Rear sprocket changes requiring the wheel out (and the cush
    drive assembly) would be a pain, but not too bad. The main problem is
    the use of bosses integral to the sprocket to transmit the drive. If it
    wasn't for those I reckon Supersprox or Talon could knock me something
    up easily.

    A hill climber suggested trying Talon as they are close to him. I am
    hoping they could use an old sprocket as the basis of a carrier and
    machine it to take conventional alloy sprockets somehow.

    I will take him up on the offer to take an old sprocket in to them to
    see if anything is possible.
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  4. Pete Fisher

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    My point was that QC carriers are made for many bikes (one of which may
    fit yours), & using one removes any OEM sprocket issues so you can use
    any size. The QC aspect itself is pretty irrelevant.
    Talon make their own QC carrier so might be able to modify one to fit
    your bike. You could then use their standard sprockets in pretty much
    any size & colour you fancy.


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  5. Pete Fisher

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    They don't even make standard sprockets for this bike. If the cush drive
    picked up on holes in the sprocket there would be very little problem.

    I once had an ancient 'scrambler' that had a truly huge rear sprocket.
    This had been achieved by a previous owner having had the outer
    circumference of a large steel sprocket (presumably with the centre cut
    out accurately somehow) welded on to an old standard steel sprocket. You
    could still very much see the join. Amazingly it had been done with
    sufficient accuracy that it worked.


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  6. Pete Fisher

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    Err... I gathered that. They do however make standard sprockets for
    their (as in Talon's) carrier. The carriers are different for each
    bike, but the sprockets are the same. So if they can make a carrier fit
    your bike, you'll have an endless choice of sprockets to fit that
    carrier, iyswim.

    The MV's exactly the same - a funny sprocket with raised bits the
    rubbers sit in. I fitted a QC carrier mainly so I don't have to
    remortgage the house everytime I need a new sprocket. I could probably
    buy 20 from FBF for the price of 1 from MV, & have a far larger range
    of sizes to choose from too.


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  7. Pete Fisher

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    Indeed. Unlikely they have a carrier for something just like this
    sprocket mounting though (clue in subtle change to sig). Worth a try
    when I can get someone to actually take one in for them to have a look
    at though.
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  8. Pete Fisher

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    I've posted sprockets to them before to match up.

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  9. Pete Fisher

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    I used to do that regularly with Supersprox in the Maughling days.
    Think I'll take the hillclimb UR route for this one though. No rush and
    the guy who would take it in to Talon is a pretty good mechanic and can
    talk them through the options.

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  10. A mere bagatelle for somebody with a whirling machine that cuts metal.
    After he's made a bagatelle, perhaps somebody could make one up.
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