FOAK: Photoshop?

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  1. Donnie

    Donnie Guest

    Right, since I've tried to get back into photography again (clincher
    was seeing Adies DSLR and my brother managing to turn my bridge camera
    into a decent Canon 400D setup) Ive been thinking about getting some
    computer software and learning a bit about using it.

    Now, it would appear that the standard would appear to be Photoshop
    rather than say, Paint Shop Pro etc

    I'm not looking to do anything professional / make money from it, but
    want to "get more into it" if that makes sense.

    So, question is, is there not a basic, perhaps amatuer version that
    sells for less than say £500?
     
    Donnie, Apr 15, 2010
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    Gavin Guest

    Photoshop Elements.
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    Gavin, Apr 15, 2010
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    petrolcan Guest

    Enjoying it?
    Try picasa for starters.
    Want a 'trial' version of Photoshop CS4?
     
    petrolcan, Apr 15, 2010
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  4. I'm sure there's a student version for a lot less.
    Or do what at least 50% of non-commercial users do - torrent a copy.
    Thing is, Adobe have almost a monopoly with PS in the commercial field
    and every bugger with a hookey copy who goes on to work with it
    professionally is another bit of added weight in the Adobe camp.
    If they're proficient in it through personal use, they'll stump up the
    cash when it's paying for itself many times over.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 15, 2010
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  5. Donnie

    eatmorepies Guest

    Gimp is open source and similar to Photoshop http://www.gimp.org/ . If you
    want to buy something try Photoshop Elements - we use it as the tutorial
    program of choice in our photography club. Also, it's free to download a 30
    day trial of Photoshop CS - and it's possible to get longer trial periods.
    Where in the UK are you? Paint Shop Pro has good reviews but I don't know
    how well supported it is. There are shedloads of tutorials available online
    for Photoshop.

    John
     
    eatmorepies, Apr 15, 2010
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  6. Aperture.
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Apr 15, 2010
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  7. I've never seen the justification for Photoshop at it's price tag and
    I've been doing digital imagery since the mid 80s. I do have it on
    this PC as a company I was contracting to gave me one of their
    licences. But I still use other tools that I am comfortable with and
    can't see the point in forking out $1000 for it. And I make a living
    out of this game. And Paint Shop Pro V5 is still one of the tools I
    use.

    Photoshop Elements is what you should look for if you want the
    stripped down version though.

    But don't poo-poo PSP just because it is cheap. No, it isn't
    Photoshop, but it is a bit like Microsoft Word. How many people really
    use all the features in Word?

    I started work about a decade ago in an animation studio. I had to
    modify an image and the only thing loaded onto the PC was Photoshop. I
    got a look of amazement when I said I hadn't used PS. Sorry guys, PS
    didn't even exist when I started doing this. Wasn't hard to pick it up
    though as I constantly used After Effects which is pretty much PS with
    time added for another dimension.

    Kev
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Apr 15, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    Canon DPP for converting Raw (free)
    GIMP for editing (free)
     
    ginge, Apr 15, 2010
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  9. Just installed that on my Macs. Number One Son bought it using his
    student discount for something like £65. On first inspection, not as
    broad as Photoshop but bloody impressive all the same.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 16, 2010
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Well, given that it's a competitor to Adobe Lightroom...
     
    Timo Geusch, Apr 16, 2010
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    M.Badger Guest

    GIMP. Not you, but what you do on a Saturday is up to you.

    GIMP is free and bloody good.
     
    M.Badger, Apr 16, 2010
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    Vass Guest

    seen what CS5 will be able to do when its released?

    clever stuff
     
    Vass, Apr 16, 2010
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  13. Donnie

    Derek Turner Guest

    AOL and there is a version/fork called GimpShop which has a more
    PhotoShop-like interface, if you prefer.
     
    Derek Turner, Apr 16, 2010
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    Ben Guest

    I've stopped shooting RAW. I decided to improve my skills with the
    camera, rather than rely on fixing things afterwards, because I simply
    don't have the time. JPG provides a much faster workflow, and I've
    got better.
     
    Ben, Apr 16, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    I use both, depending in the situation. For fast shutter rates, or
    just taking photos jpg is fine, but if there's a lot of contrast
    involved, or you want to extract every last bit of sharpness then raw
    is the only option really, because jpg often loses some of the sensor
    detail.
     
    ginge, Apr 16, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    Yeah www.gimpshop.com and it's unlikely you will want to do anything this
    doesn't cope with.
    Bit of a learning curve but I expect PS is more difficult still.
     
    Hog, Apr 16, 2010
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    Dingly ding. In fact, I've never shot in raw. 95% of my pictures are
    straight out of the camera.[1]

    I was never one for doing that dodging/burning stuff in the darkroom and
    life's too short to spend hours with PS.

    The tools in Picasa are good enough for me.

    [1]That might explain my success rate though. I'm only really happy with
    about 0.1% of my pics.
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 16, 2010
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    Ah, yes. As Timo pointed out.
     
    TOG@Toil, Apr 16, 2010
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    Switters Guest

    Seconded, on both accounts.

    GIMP will have everything you need, save for the myriad of photoshop plug-
    ins, but it's free so you'll save some pennies and be legit.

    Elements is pretty good for their nobbled version. I've got the version
    before the "suite" came out, so don't know how bloated it is these days.
     
    Switters, Apr 16, 2010
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  20. Donnie

    Simon Wilson Guest

    No I'm not.
    Yes, and they're generally pretty good at it since I'm sure there's been
    a lot of tuning of the software to the sensor.
    It's a lot more unprocessed than many a pic that has been 'improved' by PS.
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 16, 2010
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