FOAK: Mortgages

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Buzby, Jun 15, 2005.

  1. Buzby

    Buzby Guest

    Decision time and I'm crap at this sort of thing.

    Do I take a 2 year fixed at 4.79% or take a punt on interest rates coming
    and take a tracker at 0.04% above base rate currently also at 4.79%. Taking
    the latter I could fix it at a later date if there are any good deals as I'm
    currently fixed on 3.95% - I like the comfort zone of knowing exactly what I
    have to pay for a given period, but OTOH it would grieve me to be paying
    over the odds.

    TIA

    Buzby
     
    Buzby, Jun 15, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    I should think you talk to a proper mortgage advisor.
    No doubt one shall be along shortly!

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Jun 15, 2005
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Interest rates *may* come down over the next two years but not by any great
    amount so you are very unlikely to be paying significantly over the odds.
    I'd go for the fixed rate

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    Dr Zoidberg, Jun 15, 2005
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    Vass Guest

    Just arranged a fixed for 5 year 4.99% with Alliance and Leicester
    I'm an Accountant, but that does'nt mean I'm right in my actions
     
    Vass, Jun 15, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    Seconded.
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    Catman, Jun 15, 2005
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    simonk Guest

    Fixed on 4.79% is a fairly competitive rate. Rates are unlikely to drop all
    that sharply within 2 years, and there's a limit to how far they can drop
    full-stop given that banks need to pay their savers something and still make
    a profit
     
    simonk, Jun 15, 2005
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    WavyDavy Guest

    If you don't intend to pay off some or all of the mortgage or move or do
    anything else that may involve a change to the amount borrowed, then the
    fixed is probably the way to go. If you intend to do any of the previously
    mentioned things then the tracker may be better so you avoid any penalty
    charges etc.

    Ish

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Jun 15, 2005
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    simonk Guest

    My fixed-at-4.79% deal lets me pay off up to 10% of the capital in a given
    year. Given that 10% of the capital equals "a very nice motorbike indeed" I
    doubt it's a feature I'll ever make use of, mind ...
     
    simonk, Jun 15, 2005
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    If they drop far enough, they won't have any savers to pay.

    Japanese overnight rate is 0.03625%

    cf Sterling at 4.74500%


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    Salad Dodger, Jun 15, 2005
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    So does ours, we've used it three times out of the six years we've
    been here.

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    Salad Dodger, Jun 15, 2005
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    Ginge Guest

    I've overpaid every year, and shall continue to do so until I can afford
    to go on the dole...
     
    Ginge, Jun 15, 2005
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Salad Dodger scribbled on the back of a napkin:
    Looks like it's gone up then - I can remember I had to fix a piece of
    software a couple of years ago because it couldn't properly handle the
    negative O/N and 2D interest rates...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jun 15, 2005
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    summink when it was voluntary unemployment). It appears that now, only
    pikeys can get dole. You have to be skint before the "insurance" pays
    out. Lovely incentive to save/work hard etc. blah blah...

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    Paul Carmichael, Jun 16, 2005
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    Ben Guest

    I may be wrong, but I fixed last week for 2 years at 5.09%. Could
    have had a tracker again, like I've had for the last 4 years, but I
    have a feeling rates will go up. Maybe not much but enough that a
    tracker will have me paying more.

    And the current difference between the monthly payments on a tracker
    and fixed was only 3 quid anyway.
     
    Ben, Jun 18, 2005
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    dwb Guest

    Why do you think they will go up?

    Most of the stuff I've read has hinted at gloom and doom in the consumer and
    manufacturing sectors, hinting towards, if anything, a reduction.
     
    dwb, Jun 18, 2005
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    Ben Guest

    The tracker that's just finished has been going up fairly steadily
    over the last year. I don't think they rocket, just go up a few more
    quarters. Enough to put the tracker above the fixed rate.

    And even if they do go down, I doubt they'll drop to 2003[1] levels
    again for a while so I won't be too pissed off.

    On a personal front, it's important for me to know exactly how much my
    payment is going to be for the next year or so, so a 2 year fixed at a
    decent rate was perfect.

    [1] I really wish I'd fixed for 5 years then. 3 an' a bit percent!
     
    Ben, Jun 18, 2005
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    It's a funny old tracker, then, as the base rate hasn't moved for ten
    months.
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    Salad Dodger, Jun 19, 2005
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    Ben Guest

    <checks spreadsheets>

    Ooh, yeah. Sept 04 was my last rate change. It climbed steadily over
    2004, I'm forgetting we're halfway through 2005 now. Been a busy old
    year.

    Hmm, oh well, deed is done now and I'm stuck with it for a couple of
    years[1].




    [1] Unless I want to pay redemption fees, which I don't. Will be able
    to change it when I move by transferring the balance of the mortgage
    to another one with Nationwide.
     
    Ben, Jun 19, 2005
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