FOAK: mortgage advice

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by JB, Nov 10, 2006.

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    JB Guest

    My 5 year fixed rate mortgage with C&G is up for renewal at the end of the
    month they've offered a variable rate deal at 6.75%. It is split between an
    £80k repayment and a £52k endowment with about 9 years to run on the
    original 25 year term.
    Before I start to call around the usual herd of the banks and building
    societies, anyone know any good deals about atm?
    Thanks for any advice or leads.
    JB
     
    JB, Nov 10, 2006
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    gazzafield Guest



    Try Nationwide. Can't be beaten IMHO.
     
    gazzafield, Nov 10, 2006
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    JB Guest

    Ta muchly. Thought I was gonig to have to get the lube out :>)

    JB
     
    JB, Nov 10, 2006
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    Emma At Work Guest

    Do you want a fixed rate, capped rate or variable rate - this is not a
    Nationwide advert, just a question as there are so many deals out
    there it may be best to clarify what type of mortgage you are ideally
    looking for before filling your head with the many different rates
    available at the moment.

    See, I'd probably look for a below bank base tracker, with offset
    account so I can have flexibility with underpayments and overpayments,
    and have any savings offset against the mortgage balance, thus
    reducing the overall mortgage term.

    I'd try as much as possible to arrange a mortgage without any early
    repayment charges, so I could have the flexibility about when I switch
    to another lender.

    I'd also be wary of the costs involved in switching lenders, some
    offer free legals and valuations, but bump up the arrangement fee to
    cover the incentives that are being given out with one hand
    It is only worth fixing for as long as poss if you like to gamble on
    rates not falling significantly. In 2001 bank base was 5%, in 2003 it
    was 3.75%. Now it is back at 5%. (in 1991 it went from 12% to 15% and
    back to 12% in the space of a few hours [1]. Yesterdays increase was
    well expected in the industry [2] but opinion is divided as to when
    the next one is coming along. Doomsayers say

    Woolwich have 4.99% ish for 10 yr fixed rate at the moment - but this
    has heavy penalties if you want to change mortgages within this 10
    year term. The mortgage however can be taken with you to a new
    property (portable) if you want to move home in this period of time.
    Standard variable - the 6.75% you are referring to, is normally bank
    base plus 2% depending on the lender. So 6.75 with C&G could be 7% by
    Monday pm.

    [1] it may have been days - it was my first week at work after leaving
    collecge and I have never seen so many men in tears.

    [2] work as compliance officer for local mortgage brokers.

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    Emma At Work, Nov 10, 2006
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    JB Guest

    Another one for the list.
    thanks,

    JB
     
    JB, Nov 10, 2006
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    JB Guest


    Thanks for the good background. I'll look into this much further I think.

    JB
     
    JB, Nov 10, 2006
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    Greybeard Guest


    Just completeing <sp> on Monday.
    5 years fixed rate with Britannia. No charges.
    All legal bollox and surveys included, and pretty damned quick!
    HTH

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    Greybeard

    FLHTCUI UK-07 96 cu-in (Written off after 3 days & 182 miles!) Courtesy of a
    myopic female driver.
    FLHTCUI UK-07 Mk II (On order!)
    Trumpet Trophy 1200 -96, (The Barge) for rainy days.

    ukrm@foxtails[dot]co[dot]uk
     
    Greybeard, Nov 10, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    *ding*

    Give that man a banana.

    Also watch out for exit fees that are ridiculously high - this seems to
    be the current sport amongst lenders to see who can get away with the
    highest fees.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 10, 2006
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    Ex-Pat Andy Guest

    We had a good deal with Britannia until we fled the country over the
    summer - 10 year fixed, and they're currently offering 5.44%. Our mortgage
    at the time was split between repayment (over 10 years) and an endowment and
    they were also amenable to altering the ratio between the interest only and
    the endowment parts when our endowment policies continued to go further
    belly up.

    Cheers

    Andy
     
    Ex-Pat Andy, Nov 11, 2006
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    Ex-Pat Andy Guest

    We had a good deal with Britannia until we fled the country over the
    summer - 10 year fixed, and they're currently offering 5.44%. Our mortgage
    at the time was split between repayment (over 10 years) and an endowment and
    they were also amenable to altering the ratio between the interest only and
    the endowment parts when our endowment policies continued to go further
    belly up.

    Cheers

    Andy
     
    Ex-Pat Andy, Nov 11, 2006
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    Kiran Guest

    Ferger wrote:

    But if you need the security of knowing what you'll pay, find
    Why, high arangement fees is a just a response to the mortgage tarts out
    there. To be fair, I've only ever had experience of mortgages with
    Nationwide. I've just forked out £1500 arrangement fee, but the savings over
    the 24mth period are much much more than that, if I'd gone for a rate with a
    cheaper arrangement fee. Plus, Nationwide have a policy that if you pay one
    arangement fee, you can fix more than one product. So, I've now got an
    option for a very low rate on any extra borrowings I may make in the next 6
    months [1].

    [1] i.e. when we move.
     
    Kiran, Nov 11, 2006
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    Kiran Guest

    That's the one. Actually, I think it's 4.47%. Halifax did have a slightly
    better deal at 4.39% but it expired last week, and there was the hassle of
    moving mortgages. Plus, my exisitng fixed rate didn't actually run out until
    end of January but that was no big deal as we're now within 3 months of the
    expiry period so nationwide could jsut replace it.

    I'm actually surprised the 4.47% rate is still available given that rates
    went up the other day. Doubt that it will last much longer.
     
    Kiran, Nov 11, 2006
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    Cane Guest

    Virgin One
     
    Cane, Nov 11, 2006
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    Higgins@work Guest

    I quite like www.moneysupermarket.com for taking a first cut through
    what's currently available. It gives a handy indication of the total
    cost over 5 years (or your preferred duration).
     
    Higgins@work, Nov 11, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Only if you've got lots of savings to offset your mortgage with.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 11, 2006
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    Kiran Guest

    I was going to ask what the new AER/API rate (or whatever it is) actually
    comparing [1]. When looking at mortgage deals, some of the best deals had
    crap comparison rates, mainly because the results were completely screwed by
    the standard variable rate applied at the end of any fixed term. Must say,
    whilst I agree with the idea in principle I'm not sure the comparison
    actually gives us a real indication of whether a mortgage product is any
    good.

    [1] I have a funny feeling that one of the websites I used did a comparison
    on the full 20 year term.
     
    Kiran, Nov 11, 2006
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    ginge Guest

    Out of interest, what's to stop such people using a pencil and paper to
    do the same calcualtions?
     
    ginge, Nov 11, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    We've made sure that they are convinced that the bumpf they get is
    impenetrable enough so they'd have to trust the salesweasel?
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 11, 2006
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    ginge Guest

    Oh, I see. You're saying it's the regulatory bodies responsibility to
    assist the stupid, rather than to ensure an industry is simply legal and
    follows an acceptable code of ethics.

    Blimey.
     
    ginge, Nov 11, 2006
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    Kiran Guest

    Not really no. As per the other part of the thread, you seem to be
    advocating the lowest common denominator approach to regulation.
     
    Kiran, Nov 11, 2006
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