FOAK: Mac (Leopard) Backup Software

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Ben, Feb 25, 2008.

  1. Ben

    Ben Guest

    I'm amazed I'm having so much trouble with this, but...

    I can't seem to find backup software for my Mac that fits my, pretty normal,
    requirements.

    They are:

    - Must be able to backup to an SMB network share reliably.
    - Must be able to be scheduled and automatic.
    - Must be able to be incremental.

    So far I've tried:

    - Time Machine. Doesn't support network shares. Even when hacked.
    - SuperDuper!. Craps out on a network share.
    - Carbon Copy Cloner. Doesn't support network shares.
    - SmartBackup. Craps out about halfway through an 80Gb backup repeatedly.

    Freeware, shareware and cheap stuff doesn't seem to be reliable so I'm after
    recommendations for commercial stuff.

    Open to the floor...
     
    Ben, Feb 25, 2008
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  2. Ben

    Timo Geusch Guest

    It's Unix underneath, tried any of the non pointy-clicky tools?
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 25, 2008
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  3. Ben

    Ben Guest

    Sorry, but I can't be arsed hacking around. And I don't really do Unix.
     
    Ben, Feb 25, 2008
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  4. Ben

    prawn Guest

    *Ding*. rsync is perfect for the job. Run it hourly and forget.
     
    prawn, Feb 25, 2008
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  5. Ben

    Catman Guest


    http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26359/itimemachine


    Does exactly that. Backs up my MacBook every time I come home.

    HTH

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    Catman, Feb 25, 2008
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  6. Ben

    Des Guest

    1. Open Terminal (/Applications/Utilities)

    2. type
    mkdir ~/bin
    vim ~/bin/backup.sh

    3. type this...
    #!/bin/sh
    /usr/bin/find ~/ -type f -mtime +0 -exec /bin/cp -pf {} <pathtoSMB> \;

    4. save (ESC and then :wq)

    5. do ...
    crontab -e

    6. type this ..
    0 3 * * * ~/bin/backup.sh > /dev/null

    Sorted.

    (not tested the above, so it may have typos..)

    Or you can use this ...

    http://coughlan.fr/rw3backups_for_UKRM.txt

    That's a very messy script, as it was 'kludged' together over time, but it
    does me for back-ups to my USB stick which I take into school. The
    'private' part is a low-density, encrypted disk image which ensures that
    should the stick fall from my pocket in the school, no one can read the
    stuff that I don't want to be read.

    d.
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    des
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    'The Egyptians could run to Egypt, the Syrians into Syria. The only place
    we could run was into the sea, and before we did that we might as well
    fight' (Golda Meir)
     
    Des, Feb 25, 2008
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  7. Ben

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Something like that, or bacula - there's a wealth of stuff out there.
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 25, 2008
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  8. Ben

    Simon Wilson Guest


    Did you try iTimemachine?
     
    Simon Wilson, Feb 25, 2008
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  9. Ben

    Des Guest

    If he's just backing up to an SMB volume that (presumably) will be on
    /Volumes, then he shouldn't need rsync.

    d.

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    'Kaiser: "Can you prove to me the existence of G-d?"
    Bismarck: "The Jews, your Majesty. The Jews"'
     
    Des, Feb 25, 2008
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  10. Ben

    prawn Guest


    You are quite right. You *can* use it for 'local' backup and as I
    remember all the command line arguments... [1].

    [1] Maintaining the UKRM tradition of recommending what you own/use.
     
    prawn, Feb 25, 2008
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  11. Ben

    Ben Guest

    Tried that, and the command line hack.

    It connects, says it's "preparing the backup", then craps out after a few
    minutes. Googling suggests there isn't a way round it if those tools don't
    work.
     
    Ben, Feb 25, 2008
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  12. Ben

    YTC#1 Guest

    I've heard good things about it

    http://www.bacula.org/en/

    Been thinking of trying it Solaris
     
    YTC#1, Feb 25, 2008
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  13. Ben

    ginge Guest

    Windows Vista Backup.

    It comes with all this other useful functionality too...
     
    ginge, Feb 26, 2008
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  14. Ben

    Catman Guest

    What a bugger :(

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    Catman, Feb 26, 2008
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  15. Ben

    dog Guest

    no, it won't. time machine relies on a filesystem with hardlinks.
    if you drop the requirement for an smb share, you might consider .mac:

    http://www.apple.com/dotmac/backup.html

    pro:
    - you don't have to provide any additional hardware or configuration

    con:
    - apple pwns yr jpgs kthx
     
    dog, Feb 26, 2008
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  16. Ben

    Catman Guest

    Yes it will


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    Catman, Feb 26, 2008
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  17. Ben

    dog Guest

    you snipped this bit:

    "time machine relies on a filesystem with hardlinks."

    are you going to debate this? or are you claiming that smb supports hardlinks?
    ben was talking about an smb share, as you well know.
     
    dog, Feb 26, 2008
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  18. Ben

    Catman Guest

    *sigh* I use a modified version of time machine (iTime machine) to back
    up my mack to my Terastation every time I go home. AFAI*K* (and there
    could well be other stuff going on) it works just fine.

    I make no claims that smb supports hardlinks, or even that my Mac talks
    to my Terastation via smb but since the server connection starts smb://
    I guessing that it probably does.

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    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
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    Catman, Feb 26, 2008
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  19. Ben

    dog Guest

    if it's a modified version, it's not bloody time machine is it?
     
    dog, Feb 26, 2008
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  20. Ben

    Ben Guest

    I installed Vista Ultimate in a Bootcamp partition on this machine
    when I first got it. It was unbelievably shit. Slow doesn't even
    come close.

    XP Pro was fine. In fact, I'm running Agent[1] on XP in a VMWare
    virtual machine[2] as I type and it feels native.



    [1] Because all Mac newsreaders are invariably crap or seem to think
    you want a million fucking windows on the screen.
    [2] Because my GPS mapping software is Windows only.
     
    Ben, Feb 26, 2008
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