FOAK: EKS/Joint venture question

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by mrmoosehead, Dec 14, 2007.

  1. mrmoosehead

    mrmoosehead Guest

    Now then. As there is a wealth of info on ukrm, thought I'd pop this
    one on here.

    Considering a bit of a joint venture type thing with a chap who I do a
    lot of programming work for - he runs a small design/marketing/web
    type company. we work well together, but he just can't afford to
    employ me... :D

    We have been considering setting up something inbetween out two ltd
    companies to reduce the risk to either of us.

    To be able to do this effectively, I was thinking that we run stuff
    through the 3rd company, and I charge my time via my EKS company to
    the JV company at the standard sort of EKS rate around here that I
    usually get.
    The remainder stays in the JV for future expansion etc.
    the benefit to me is that I get his sales acumen and contacts and
    stuff, I still retain the EKS comapny as main shareholder, he only
    benefits from teh 50/50 split of the excess over what I need to
    support family/mortgage/wine. I also get to build a real company with
    him instead of an EKS only company
    he benfits by not having to pay me a huge amount in salary if I were
    to join him directly, or he doesn't have to surrender a good
    proportion of his company to me as a driector/shareholder (enough to
    earn me my required amount)
    if I were to to a salaried role in the JV to take my lions share of
    the proceeds (it'll be coding work so less for him to do) I would be
    hit for huge amounts of tax that I don't currently get hit for as EKS

    The reason this has come about is that there is a fair chunk of work
    that has come our way that I would have to do full time and we see it
    as a springboard to do further things together.

    Did all that make sense?

    The worry I have is that hmrc might take a dim view of the recharging
    of the EKS time to the JV company?

    TIA.
     
    mrmoosehead, Dec 14, 2007
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  2. mrmoosehead

    Hog Guest

    If they are both proper companies trading freely I don't see the problem. If
    you are actually only trying to miminize tax then Her Maj will take a close
    look at you.
    As long as you do some work for more than two discrete clients you should be
    fine.

    Watch out for the Revenue deciding you are Associated Companies and treating
    you as a single entity.
     
    Hog, Dec 14, 2007
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