FOAK: Computer Hardware

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Derek Turner, May 16, 2010.

  1. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest

    My mobo is getting long in the tooth and has the fastest processor it
    will take (Athlon2 3800+) so time to upgrade. My usual plan is to buy a
    decent board with an entry-level processor and then upgrade the processor
    to the fastest it will take when the price has come right down. So
    present thinking is a DDR3 board with 2 meg to start with and an AM3
    socket. Will probably go for the cheapest Phenom for the time being
    depending on how prices are looking.

    My question is about graphics. I use the machine mostly for web-
    development, browsing, open-office suite, pod-cast aggregation, email and
    news. I am not a gamer but do rip CDs and DVDs (that I own!) for use when
    travelling. I don't need bleeding-edge graphics as I'm not a gamer. So
    will on-board graphics suffice? The reason I ask is because AIUI more and
    more apps are going to use spare GPU cycles. What's the state of play? Do
    enough current apps do this to make a separate card worthwhile at this
    time? I run a derivative of ubuntu (that I'm not allowed to mention) as
    my main OS with occasional boots into XP for music notation and
    communicating with some non-linux-friendly periperals (e.g. TomTom).
     
    Derek Turner, May 16, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    I'd go for an H55 chipset Motherboard, I3 530 CPU, and 4GB of DDR3 -
    lower power conmsumption, decent onboard GPU, much better performance
    than the dual core phenoms and for not much more cost, and a newer
    32nm processor core so less heat.. Should easily suit your needs for
    5 yrs or so.

    I'd also ingore the whole offloading to GPU area - it's only really a
    concern when you've a hefty video card available, which can be added
    to anyting with a PCIe X16 slot if the need arises.
     
    ginge, May 16, 2010
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  3. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest

    Something like this?

    <http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/MotherboardBundles/Novatech/MBB-
    I3554G.html>
    Yes, unless it's going to significantly decrease transcoding times
    there's no point.
     
    Derek Turner, May 16, 2010
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  4. Derek Turner

    ginge Guest

    Yeah that sort of thing, but I prefer to choose specific kit over non
    specific bundles - that link looks like the mobo only has 2 DIMM
    slots on board for example. I like the reliability of Asus
    Motherboards so this would be my mobo of choice

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus...E-20-(x16)-DDR3-2133(OC)-SATA-3GB-s-mATX-HDCP

    Or you could save a few quid with this one... again good kit.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Giga...(x16)-DDR3-1600-1800-2133-SATA-3Gb-s-VGA-uATX
     
    ginge, May 16, 2010
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  5. Derek Turner

    Gyp Guest

    I've just popped a black edition Phenom II 965 into Horse's AM2+
    motherboard and that's fairly brisk. I got it pre-loved from a chappie
    at work that was upgrading to something even brisker.
     
    Gyp, May 16, 2010
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  6. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest

    %28x16%29-DDR3-2133%28OC%29-SATA-3GB-s-mATX-HDCP

    Yes my last two mobos have been Asus so I'll stick with what I know.
    Thanks for the heads-up, but **** me Scan want £70+vat to ship to Jersey
    and charge vat on the goods, too.

    Fortunately Amazon stocks it, vat-free and free delivery.
     
    Derek Turner, May 17, 2010
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  7. Derek Turner

    spike1 Guest

    Hope you mean 2 gig there...
    2 meg wouldn't even load a doctument into a wordprocessor these days...
    Wouldn't even fit the word processor in fact.
    :)
     
    spike1, May 17, 2010
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  8. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest

    Oops, so I do. My first microcomputer came with 16 kilobytes and my brain
    hasn't caught up!
     
    Derek Turner, May 17, 2010
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  9. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest

    My old one any good? Main IDE broken (secondary for optical fine, has
    sata (2 IIRC for RAID O or 1), firewire, 2 LAN 4 external 1 internal USB
    comes with 2Gb DDR Athlon 3800+. AGP 8X. Was the dogs bollocks for AMD
    when bought. Intending to keep the AGP card (nVidia GT6600 IIRC) to
    upgrade my mum's machine but could be persuaded to part.
     
    Derek Turner, May 17, 2010
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  10. Derek Turner

    Cab Guest

    Oh, could you drop me an email then? BTW, is the MoBo a micro-ATX?

    The AGP card, I'm not fussed about, as I bought a half size one recently
    to fit into my media PC.
     
    Cab, May 17, 2010
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  11. That pretty much mirrors my own situation and I've been looking at the
    same sort of upgrade with exactly that in mind. It's exactly what I did
    the last time and it paid off quite well, not having to swap out every
    year or two.
    Mind you, I've just re-installed a clean Acronis backup from 2007 and
    **** me, the machine flies along with no shit bogging it down. It'll do
    for a few months yet.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 17, 2010
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  12. Derek Turner

    spike1 Guest

    ZX Spectrum perchance?
    Me too :)
     
    spike1, May 18, 2010
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  13. Derek Turner

    Cab Guest

    Pikey git. I had the luxurious 48k version.
     
    Cab, May 18, 2010
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  14. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest


    Exidy Sorcerer. An extra 32K came in a box the size of a small suitcase
    which had room for expansion boards for luxuries such as a real-time
    clock.

    <http://oldcomputers.net/sorcerer.html>

    the S100 expansion box is shown down the page a little!

    we also added twin 5.25inch floppy disks so I could program in MBASIC
    rather than use the 8-track ROM.
     
    Derek Turner, May 18, 2010
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  15. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest

    I use an ubuntu-derived OS so no registry to slow it down. My performance
    issues are with transcoding and (and it's my own fault because I use a
    lot of compiz bells and whistles) screen re-drawing. For most of what I
    do, as you say, it flies along.
     
    Derek Turner, May 18, 2010
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  16. Derek Turner

    spike1 Guest

    So did I, after my 16k broke and the price had dropped.
    :)
     
    spike1, May 18, 2010
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  17. Derek Turner

    darsy Guest

    ingenue.

    My first couple of computers came with 1k (ZX81) and 6+6K (Acorn Atom)
    respectively.

    Sure, I had a Spectrum 48k, but that was *much* later.
     
    darsy, May 18, 2010
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  18. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest

    YHM
     
    Derek Turner, May 18, 2010
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  19. I've got one of them! I added the expansion box ($400) and
    a 32K RAM board (added a switch so I could use just 24K if I was using
    a ROMPAC or the full memory otherwise; IIRC I had a word-processor and
    an assembler ROM image on disk to load into RAM). A Micropolis dual
    315K floppy drive cost me $2000 tax-free (for export to Antarctica!).
    Ran CP/M, CBASIC, etc... It's sitting in boxes in my front porch in
    Byron Bay.

    --
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    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Dr Ivan D. Reid, May 19, 2010
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  20. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest

    We didn't have any of those 8-track ROM thingies. Instead CP/M and MBASIC
    lived on one floppy while the program lived on the other. Once loaded
    into RAM the basic interpretor disk could be removed and replaced with a
    random-access data disk to store results. The machine was controlling an
    experiment via the S100 bus. ISTR that the disk drive was higher-than-
    normal capacity only Verbatim high data-density disks would work. Just
    wikied it: 720Kb.
     
    Derek Turner, May 19, 2010
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