FOAK: Barcelona - Valencia

What's the quickest route by car between Barcelona and Valencia?

Multimap gets it completely wrong, and mapquest suggests taking the A-7,
but I don't know if this is the old A-7 or the new A-7.

 

Any one that Michael Schumacher takes.

 

In

Autoroute says C-32 -> A-7 too.

 

Fastest way: Current AP-7, which stands for "a pagar" (to pay), which is the
former A-7.

Current A-7 is former N-340. Suggested option if you have antropological
interests on what is written on the back doors of trucks circulating at
80km/h.

Beware of radars even on AP-7 toll highway, we're going the French way.

 

That A-7 must be the former A-7, autoroute is out of date.

Actually there are several ways to exit Barcelona southwards:

- by Diagonal avenue, then AP-7. This is the easiest, cheapest and longest.

- from Ronda de Dalt ring and follow indications to C32 (try airport
direction first).

- by Gran Via avenue and follow indications to the airport, then C32. This
last one is a bit tricky specially near Sant Boi.

I normally use C32, is a bit more expensive, but a bit shorter, and more
twisty, so more fun Also there are few trucks, if any (it is not on
international routes as AP-7)

 

Thanks. Mapquest says the A7 they list has toll sections, but I'll try
and dig deeper. I'll probably avoid the trucker routes as I want to get
the journey down there out the way.

Do you know how much it'll be, or if I can look it up somewhere?

Given the marked increase of them in my local area, I'm quickly becoming
used to them.

Any good non-tourist restaurants in walking distance of the Plaza de
Catalunya?

 

There is a Cerveceria visable on La Ramblas from Placa Catalunya,
despite it's location it does seem to be a 'locals place', great for
bar food (raciones, tapas, etc).

A great restaurant is Cafe L'Academia on Carrer Lledo if I remember
correctly. Last time I went though it was shut - might be a weekends
only thing.


Phil.

 

As I said, simply drive out of Diagonal and follow the toll section symbols

Check
http://www.autopistas.com/ing/index_ie.htm

But this is only until Salou (some 8 euros), south of this point the highway
depends on another company. I'd bet some 15-20 euros.

My choice there is the 25 euros menu (plus wine) at Maison du
Languedoc-Roussillon [1], better call for reservation before. Also
a-la-carte. Trendy look, good quality, good quantity.

Walking a bit further, I enjoyed [2] too, which is in the 15-25 EUR range.

Finally, [3] although being in a tourist area and suffering the general
unexperienced waiters disease, is a cool place for tapeo.

[1] MAISON DU LANGUEDOC ROUSSILLON
Pau Claris, 77
08010 BARCELONA (BARCELONA)
Tlf: 933 010 498

[2]
http://travel2.nytimes.com/top/feat...ona/restaurant_details.html?vid=1083747045218

[3] http://www.tallerdetapas.com/

 

Ouch! No wonder the other roads are busy.

[snip rest of useful stuff]

Gracias para su ayuda.

 

You can also say "Mercès pel seu ajut" which many locals will appreciate ;-)
"Gracias por su ayuda would be the exact Spanish.

Have a nice stay in Barcelona.

BTW, "official" hotel in Valencia is Hostal Antigua
Morellana [1]. Affordable and confortable, tough my drinking state when
there doesn't allow me to remember much O

[1] http://inicia.es/de/hostalam/

 

Does Catalan have the same pronounciation rules as Castillian?

Argh! Just when I think I've got para & por sorted, I get something
wrong.

I'm already booked up, but I'll archive this message for next time. Ta.

 

No. Quite different in many ways. Although IANAE, so wibble flip etc.

 

Got a bored August summer?
Learn Catalan pronunciation in 5 minutes!

Vowels
a, slightly more open when stressed 'à', like 'u' in "hut" when not
stressed.
i, u, exactly the same, same rules for [q/g]u[i/e]
e, o stressed have open versions 'è', 'ò' and Spanish like versions 'é', ó'
e, unstressed sounds like unstressed a
o, unstressed sounds like Spanish u

Consonants
b, d, f, h, k, l, ll, m, n, p, q, r, rr, t, v, w, y, as in Spanish
c has the 'k' sound in the same places as Spanish but the 's' sound where
Spanish would produce a 'z'.
g has the 'g' sound in the same places as Spanish but the 'j' English sound
where Spanish would produce a 'j'.
l·l is sort of a long 'l' as in English satellite (and required to do an
homologation of Catalan as an Asian language to get that flying point on
computers, want a spring roll?
s, a vibrating 's' between vowels or a Spanish s elsewhere
ss, a Spanish 's' between vowels.
z, no sound of Spanish 'z', rather like a vibrating s.

Now, practice!

http://www.uebersetzung.at/twister/ca.htm

Now

Take it easy, when you master it, then "ser & estar" will come.

 

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:58:40 GMT, "Domènec" <domenex-

Yes sir. Right away.

Well, 'ser' and 'estar' I believe I've got sorted. They have rules.
Rules are nice. Do 'por' and 'para' have rules? I thought it was just
one of those things that you learnt by experience and education
(correction).

 

Correct answer should be that they have rules that you learn by experience
and education, certainly. For more fun, Catalan has ruler for "per" and "per
a" (por/para) that are not exactly the same, there are small nuances.

Sometimes I considered promoting Kilngon to the unique official language
would be a solution, you know...

 

Ah OK... I'll just keep going then.

You and I clearly have different a understanding of the word fun.

Na, it doesn't sound very nice. How about Tolkien's Elvish?

 

If only Legolas didn't look like a midle ages David Beckham in the movie...

 

You utter bastard <removes Legolas from the list of fantasy fucks>

 

Lady Nina says...

I guess I'm one place closer to a leg-over now

 

Not wanting to pour cold water, but there must be /thousands/ wanting to
shag Beckham. Even worse, LN may have been behind you in the queue.