[QUOTE="platypus"] M J Carley wrote: [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Hercs? Last time I was flying out of Pisa, there were shitloads of G.222s around the place. They look very similar. [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alenia_G.222[/URL][/QUOTE] Similar except for having two engines. They have Hercs as well: we met an Italian pilot at Dover who was on his way back to Pisa after two years flying with the RAF at Lyneham.