Flashing ambers lights.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Scraggy, Mar 29, 2011.

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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Here I'm sure some drivers would not bother to wait their turn, on the
    reasonable assumption that the other car(s) would give way rather than
    hit them.
     
    Colin Irvine, Mar 31, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    I can't recall ever seeing a junction like that in the UK.
     
    Krusty, Mar 31, 2011
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    It's the same rule in the US isn't it, at a four way stop? First to
    arrive is first to go?
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 31, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    They have loads of them in Guernsey: looks like a box junction.
     
    Jim, Mar 31, 2011
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    Mark Olson Guest

    That's the rule, yes- but the clueless think that being on the right trumps
    getting there first, to the extent that they will roll through the stop
    sign at a goodly rate of speed, and nearly collide with traffic to the left,
    after it has already stopped, and started to go through the intersection.
    Of course the hard of thinking haven't figured out that getting there first
    has to trump "being to the right at approximately the same time".

    Being on the right only gives one priority if you arrive simultaneously or
    as close to as makes no difference. I think it's fairly obvious that you
    can't have arrived first at the intersection if you haven't even come to a
    stop yet, while other traffic at the intersection is at a standstill.
     
    Mark Olson, Mar 31, 2011
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    Cab Guest

    They certainly do in Saudi and a couple of other Arabic nations.
    Mind you, we're not talking about them, are we?
     
    Cab, Mar 31, 2011
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    Well of course. I didn't say I didn't do it. I had a nice 535 BMW when I
    lived/worked there. I discovered exactly how good the brakes were one
    morning when a scooter doing about 3mph tootled around in front of me.

    Much earlier I had a Montego Trubo[1], it could only manage about three
    doughnuts before the brakes faded to nothing. It was quite a shock
    arriving at the fourth.

    Front left tyres never lasted long in that place.

    [1] typo, but I left it because I liked it.
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 31, 2011
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    Cab Guest

    I don't recall Denmark ever being LH. The wiki article suggest that it was
    their colonies.

    At any rate, you can't compare the volume of traffic in Sweden in '67 to
    the volume of traffic in the UK in 2011. Can't be done. Even Eire would
    have problems, I'd've thought.
     
    Cab, Mar 31, 2011
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    Cab Guest

    .... sometimes they work in France.
     
    Cab, Mar 31, 2011
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    Cab Guest

    It's not that bad. No worse than the UK at any rate. I'd go so far as
    to say that the French are more respectful of two wheelers than any
    cage driver in the UK. It doesn't mean that they're any less blind,
    mind.
     
    Cab, Mar 31, 2011
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Nah, they'd simply do it in stages - cars one week, other vehicles the
    next.
     
    Colin Irvine, Mar 31, 2011
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    On a slight swerve, I find roundabouts the hardest aspect of changing
    sides of the road when abroad.
     
    Colin Irvine, Mar 31, 2011
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    Cab Guest

    It's generally a piece of cake when I come back to the UK in a cage.
    The problem is when you're on a bike. That's a nightmare. Once I was
    riding through Brum and came up to a roundabout. I couldn't figure out
    why the traffic was going the wrong way for a few secs, until I
    realised that I'd crossed over onto the roundabout exit...

    T-Junctions are worse on the bike, IME. You have to make sure you look
    in every bloody direction before moving out, otherwise you'll
    inevitably look the wrong way.
     
    Cab, Mar 31, 2011
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    +1 I find it *much* harder on a bike in general. Road positioning,
    everything. Roundabouts definitely the weirdest.
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 31, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    If only they could stop using their fucking left indicators when
    they're going straight on. Really gets on my tits, that does.
     
    Ace, Apr 1, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    Boom boom.
     
    Ace, Apr 1, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    +1
     
    Krusty, Apr 1, 2011
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    Cab Guest

    I don't pay attention to indicators, as they rarely seem to know
    how they work. I'm always paying close attention to their lane
    positioning though. Quite often, at large roundabouts, they put
    themselves in the right lane to turn left (left lane to turn
    right for the UK residents). Whilst road positioning is piss poor
    in general (no more worse than the UK, IME), roundabouts are an
    anathema to the French and they really don't know how to set
    themselves up properly at the approaches to roundabouts.
     
    Cab, Apr 1, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    Aye. And then they sometimes go all the way round on the outside line,
    causing a lot of confusion when I'm, quite naturally, cutting close to
    the middle.
     
    Ace, Apr 1, 2011
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    Thomas Guest

    Not so duh, really. There is a high percentage of drivers who take the
    "RIGHT on red" literally, and don't know it applies at one way streets
    as "left on..."
    Just more evidence that most drivers don't know the rules of the road.
     
    Thomas, Apr 2, 2011
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