Flashing ambers lights.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Scraggy, Mar 29, 2011.

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    Lozzo Guest

    There are a few that I do on the wrong side too, especially when it
    makes the run straighter than going round the correct way or bumping
    over them.

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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Mar 30, 2011
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    Tosspot Guest

    They might for number plates...
     
    Tosspot, Mar 30, 2011
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    zymurgy Guest

    zymurgy, Mar 30, 2011
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  4. "This continued well into the 20th century, despite the fact that
    virtually all the cars on the road in Sweden were LHD. (One argument for
    this was that it was necessary to keep an eye on the edge of the road,
    something that was important on the narrow roads in use at the time).
    Also, Sweden's neighbours Norway and Finland already drove on the right,
    leading to confusion at border crossings."

    Blimey, I didn't know that most of the cars in Sweden at the time were
    left-hookers anyway, which would have greatly eased the transition.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 31, 2011
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  5. The turn left on red thing in vegas made being on a bike a terrifying
    experience. You'd be going through a green light wondering if someone
    was going to come out in front of you.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Mar 31, 2011
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  6. If you really were turning left on red, in Vegas, it's not really a
    surprise that you were terrified.
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Mar 31, 2011
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    Mark Olson Guest

    I knew what he meant, and what you mean, but there are in fact
    places here (no idea if there are any in Las Vegas) where it is
    legal to do that. From a one-way street onto a one-way street,
    obviously.

    But in fact, turn *right* on red has indeed become terrifying for
    riders, because so many drivers fail to remember that the rule is
    turn right on red, after coming to a stop, and /only if there is
    no traffic coming through in the cross direction/. It's not
    uncommon for people to pull directly in front of traffic after
    slowing only slightly for the red light, as if they have the right
    of way over cross traffic that is proceeding through a green light.
     
    Mark Olson, Mar 31, 2011
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    I quite like the Canadian system of crossing junctions in the order at
    which you arrive at that them. When traffic is light it works
    perfectly.
     
    Colin Irvine, Mar 31, 2011
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  9. Duh, obviously.
    I remember it well.
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Mar 31, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    I like the Swiss system, where priority to the right, particularly at
    a four-way intersection, could cause problems. I paraphrase from the
    Swiss highway code, but it's not far off: "When no-one has the clear
    right of way, drivers must work it out for themselves".

    Only in Switzerland...
     
    Ace, Mar 31, 2011
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    Hog Guest

    So it's just like France. No rules and ride like they want to kill you.
     
    Hog, Mar 31, 2011
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    Mark Olson Guest

    I'm struggling to see how, in the absence of signal lights (AKA semaphores),
    it could be done any differently.
     
    Mark Olson, Mar 31, 2011
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    Mark Olson Guest

    I find that to be the case nearly everywhere I've been, but contrary to
    what I was led to expect, Italy was a pleasant exception. There, I had
    the feeling that everyone just wanted to get on with it and you were
    expected to slot together as smoothly as possible and make progress for
    the benefit of all.

    Not that you wouldn't be killed immediately if you did something stupid,
    but it would likely be your fault, rather than from someone else being
    inconsiderate.
     
    Mark Olson, Mar 31, 2011
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    Switters Guest

    Roundabouts
     
    Switters, Mar 31, 2011
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    Mark Olson Guest

    Yes, believe it or not we have them here (although only 1 in 100 seem
    to understand their proper use).

    I meant, how else could you do it, assuming a normal 4-way stop style
    intersection.
     
    Mark Olson, Mar 31, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    The normal way would be to give one road priority (i.e. no junction) &
    the other two give way. Which is far better than the Canadian system
    imo as at least half the traffic doesn't have to waste fuel slowing
    down to check it's clear before accelerating again.
     
    Krusty, Mar 31, 2011
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  17. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Mark Olson
    Here one of the roads will be designated as the "main" road, and the
    other will have "Give Way" signs.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 31, 2011
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    ....mostly work, apart from some of the ones where one road entering the
    roundabout is much higher speed than some of the others. Found quite
    often in Milton Keynes for example where, unless you want to get T
    boned, you have to give way to someone approaching the roundabout doing
    110, because you *know* they won't be able to stop in time if you go ahead.
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 31, 2011
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    Mark Olson Guest

    Yes, we also have that type of intersection. But perhaps the reason Colin
    commented on the Canadian situation, was that intersections where traffic
    has a stop sign in all directions are less common where you and he are,
    compared to north america.
     
    Mark Olson, Mar 31, 2011
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    Switters Guest

    Yes, I've seen them. Fair surprised I was.
     
    Switters, Mar 31, 2011
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