There are a few that I do on the wrong side too, especially when it makes the run straighter than going round the correct way or bumping over them. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere) BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite they churn out)
[straight bat] yeah, like Sweden and Denmark ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-_and_left-hand_traffic Paul.
"This continued well into the 20th century, despite the fact that virtually all the cars on the road in Sweden were LHD. (One argument for this was that it was necessary to keep an eye on the edge of the road, something that was important on the narrow roads in use at the time). Also, Sweden's neighbours Norway and Finland already drove on the right, leading to confusion at border crossings." Blimey, I didn't know that most of the cars in Sweden at the time were left-hookers anyway, which would have greatly eased the transition.
The turn left on red thing in vegas made being on a bike a terrifying experience. You'd be going through a green light wondering if someone was going to come out in front of you. Fraser
If you really were turning left on red, in Vegas, it's not really a surprise that you were terrified.
I knew what he meant, and what you mean, but there are in fact places here (no idea if there are any in Las Vegas) where it is legal to do that. From a one-way street onto a one-way street, obviously. But in fact, turn *right* on red has indeed become terrifying for riders, because so many drivers fail to remember that the rule is turn right on red, after coming to a stop, and /only if there is no traffic coming through in the cross direction/. It's not uncommon for people to pull directly in front of traffic after slowing only slightly for the red light, as if they have the right of way over cross traffic that is proceeding through a green light.
I quite like the Canadian system of crossing junctions in the order at which you arrive at that them. When traffic is light it works perfectly.
I like the Swiss system, where priority to the right, particularly at a four-way intersection, could cause problems. I paraphrase from the Swiss highway code, but it's not far off: "When no-one has the clear right of way, drivers must work it out for themselves". Only in Switzerland...
I'm struggling to see how, in the absence of signal lights (AKA semaphores), it could be done any differently.
I find that to be the case nearly everywhere I've been, but contrary to what I was led to expect, Italy was a pleasant exception. There, I had the feeling that everyone just wanted to get on with it and you were expected to slot together as smoothly as possible and make progress for the benefit of all. Not that you wouldn't be killed immediately if you did something stupid, but it would likely be your fault, rather than from someone else being inconsiderate.
Yes, believe it or not we have them here (although only 1 in 100 seem to understand their proper use). I meant, how else could you do it, assuming a normal 4-way stop style intersection.
The normal way would be to give one road priority (i.e. no junction) & the other two give way. Which is far better than the Canadian system imo as at least half the traffic doesn't have to waste fuel slowing down to check it's clear before accelerating again.
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Mark Olson Here one of the roads will be designated as the "main" road, and the other will have "Give Way" signs.
....mostly work, apart from some of the ones where one road entering the roundabout is much higher speed than some of the others. Found quite often in Milton Keynes for example where, unless you want to get T boned, you have to give way to someone approaching the roundabout doing 110, because you *know* they won't be able to stop in time if you go ahead.
Yes, we also have that type of intersection. But perhaps the reason Colin commented on the Canadian situation, was that intersections where traffic has a stop sign in all directions are less common where you and he are, compared to north america.