Flashing ambers lights.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Scraggy, Mar 29, 2011.

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    zymurgy Guest

    Windy Miller managed it.

    Health and safety nightmare, his windmill ..

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Mar 29, 2011
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    zymurgy Guest

    [Flashing ambers lights]

    ambers lights, thems dangers on junctions ...

    But they've had them for years on mainland Europe, so I don't know why
    there's so much reticence over here to implement something that's been
    already been tried and tested.

    Now more crucially, when are we going to finally get rid of the pound
    in favour of the euro and driving on the wrong side of the road ?

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Mar 29, 2011
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    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    Some places I've been (and to be honest I'm struggling to remember
    if I've ever seen it in the UK, which shows how long it's been since I had
    cause to ride a bike!) they have a left (resp. right) turn "slip road" at
    major intersections, with a Give Way sign but no traffic light. Australia
    comes to mind. Does much the same job as the US/Canada "right turn
    permitted on red after stopping" but slightly more expensive roadworks.

    I also like the Australian "left lane MUST turn left" at
    roundabouts, tho' the assumption it was universal nearly cost me dearly
    the first time I used an M1 roundabout on the way to Donington.

    http://maps.google.com.au/?ie=UTF8&...noid=1yM4RX7fh1sUXi_OtniaFg&cbp=12,79.65,,0,0

    You need something a bit more substantial than the UK mini-roundabouts
    tho' (i.e. at least two clear lanes in).

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    Ivan D. Reid, Mar 30, 2011
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  4. Yeah, like anyone is ever going to spend the sort of money necessary to
    convert the country to driving on the other side.
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Mar 30, 2011
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    Scraggy Guest

    Aye, they'ld be absolutely lethal on lights on roundabouts as well...
    Stinky bait, **** off.
     
    Scraggy, Mar 30, 2011
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    Switters Guest

    Or you could do a Champ and completely ignore any fine.
     
    Switters, Mar 30, 2011
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    Malc Guest

    As I knew I'd be going back it seemed best policy to go along with the
    system
     
    Malc, Mar 30, 2011
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    Malc Guest

    I have no idea whether they do or not. But given that the training
    course package that I was on included car hire and the same hire
    company would be used the next time I went out...
     
    Malc, Mar 30, 2011
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    Tim Guest

    If there is a painted left arrow on the road surface before the
    roundabout you are obliged to turn left.
     
    Tim, Mar 30, 2011
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    Andrew998 Guest

    "Tim" wrote in message
    Says who? I think you'll find lane markings are only advisory.
     
    Andrew998, Mar 30, 2011
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    Hog Guest

    I'd be interested to know if that's correct
     
    Hog, Mar 30, 2011
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    Andrew998 Guest

    "Hog" wrote in message news:4d9345c9$0$2524$...
    Well I can't find anything in the Highway Code to say you MUST obey them.
     
    Andrew998, Mar 30, 2011
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    Seems to be according to the Highway Code. Interestingly driving
    straight over a mini roundabout is agin the law though - I do that all
    the time in cages.
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 30, 2011
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    Hog Guest

    Really? I often go round the wrong side
     
    Hog, Mar 30, 2011
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    Tim Guest

    See page 70 of

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@
    motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_191955.pdf

    "Compulsory traffic movements at a junction ahead.
    These may apply to a specific traffic lane or to all
    traffic approaching the junction"
     
    Tim, Mar 30, 2011
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    Tim Guest

    So not flashing amber lights as such, but you can only proceed when the
    path through the rotating blades of the windmill is clear - that kind
    of thing?
    [/QUOTE]
    Ah, the Dutch solution?
     
    Tim, Mar 30, 2011
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    Hog Guest

    Google suggests that
    Direction arrows without writing are merely advisory, but those with writing
    e.g. "TURN RIGHT" are mandatory
    But that's hardly a definitive source
     
    Hog, Mar 30, 2011
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    Andrew998 Guest

    "Hog" wrote in message news:4d9347ba$0$12173$...
    Technically that might actually be okay: "All vehicles MUST pass round the
    central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of
    doing so." It doesn't seem to say which way round!

    That said, every now and then here the police have a focus on one of the
    mini-roundabouts and generally ticket about 2 dozen people. (Its on a
    straight road and people just ignore it which makes it hugely dangerous for
    people pulling onto the roundabout from the left who assume they only need
    to be behind the protection of the centre to be safe).
     
    Andrew998, Mar 30, 2011
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    Hog Guest

    Page 70 suggests that arrows are advisory and arrows with notices are
    compulsory
     
    Hog, Mar 30, 2011
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    Andrew998 Guest

    "Tim" wrote in message
    Yep. Having looked at the legislation, it looks like failure to comply with
    any legal traffic sign is an offence so I guess it's just not mentioned in
    the Highway Code.
     
    Andrew998, Mar 30, 2011
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