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Check out this guy's work. Makes ya want to set yerself on fire just cuz
it's so cool looking.
http://www.killerpaint.com/

 

.... it's too bad the artwork of Mike Lavallee is obscured by the
childish website antics
..

 

yea, he's so cool. I want to be him.

 

Not bad, but I guess if you can afford $40k+ for a bike you can
probably afford one of his paint jobs, too.


--Fullstate

 

What don't you like about their site? It looked OK here.

--
Albert Nurick


'97 Honda Pacific Coast
'93 Honda Helix
'87 Honda Helix

 

.... first off, i'm not big on [macromedia] flash - this
requires that the user have a flash plugin. let's say
i'm a lynx or links user (which i am) - i am completely
shielded from experiencing the site (those are two text
based web browsers).

i havent found a way to zoom in the bikes - i cant really
see the level of detail based on those sliding thumbnails.
sure, i can 'zoom in' but that's not the same. i want to
click on a bike and get a bigger picture of it.

the text is too small. white on black is one of the WORSE
combinations for readability. this is typical of rock-n-roll
websites too - they seem to enjoy building black backgrounds
with red and white text - this is terrible for the user
experience. if i want larger text, i "ctrl +" to where i
want it - cant do that with flash - the user is confined to
the defined window space
..

 

(Disclaimer: I design sites for a living) Flash is perhaps the least
offensive way to add multimedia to sites, and some folks want the zoomy
stuff on their site. Flash is used on so many sites that the plugin is
probably already loaded, so it's pretty much a non-issue.

Text browsers are the dark ages. When I browse our logs, I typically
find that Lynx users simply aren't on the map; 1 or 2 for every 20,000
users of modern browsers. It makes WebTV seem positively common (it's
not, under 0.2% of sessions.)

Heck, even Netscape represents only 1-3% of all user sessions these days.

Of course, a site selling artwork painted on bikes would be pretty
pointless text-only, yes? Even with very vivid descriptions. ;-)

Zooming is good; they certainly could have implemented that. But I know
I could see exactly what they are selling, and I'm impressed with their
work.

(Shades of Jakob Nielson) I wouldn't do this for a text-heavy site, but
I think the look works for the subject matter. FWIW, I avoid black
sites, but sometimes it's what the client wants.

Yep.

--
Albert Nurick


'97 Honda Pacific Coast
'93 Honda Helix
'87 Honda Helix

 

so are many of my collegues and g/f; although they all agree
that flash/etc are great for the *designer*, it's not always in
the best interest of the *user*

as a programmer, i might think that smalltalk is THE killer
programming language, but that doesnt mean its resultant
application is in the best interest of the user )
..
--
/// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
\\\ http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mtobler/mjt_linux_page.html ///
Lockwood's Long Shot: The chances of getting eaten up by a lion
on Main Street aren't one in a million, but once would be enough.

 

<shrug> I'm with you; I'd just as soon avoid Flash unless there's a real
need for it. However, clients often want special effects on their site;
these days, the web is often as much about dazzling or entertaining as it
is about informing.

Wow; you've been around as long as I have. ;-) I've got the Smalltalk 79
book on the bookshelf... I wonder if it's still the Next Big Thing.

--
Albert Nurick


'97 Honda Pacific Coast
'93 Honda Helix
'87 Honda Helix

 

To download content (either software or web content) from a site
without all the crap the GUI browsers cause. Also, the text browsers
are nice when you want to download a 100meg file to a server in
Chicago (on 100mb) and don't want to download it to a workstation (on
128kb) then ftp it to the server. You can just telnet to the server
and use lynx to grab the file right to the server and save a step and
time. Another big reason would be to avoid pop-ups that get generated
from a dumb-ass site that the owner is too cheap to pay a couple bucks
for so they pass the savings on to the viewer.

If you were old enough in this business you'd know that the best pages
are built using vi and lynx compliant...and yes, I use lynx and vi
regularly. It's kinda hard to write php scripts using anything else.

 

Yep. (FWIW, Lynx was my first web browsing experience, and I didn't
see why it was much better than Gopher. Thank goodness the NCSA guys
came up with Mosaic.)

Impressive! What's the site? For us, a local site with 300,000 page
views a month is pretty high traffic.

Yep. It does become more interesting when paired with server-side
automation (like Macromedia does in parts of their site) but the user
experience can still be uneven; the "feel" isn't quite right.

I've heard various geekesque opinions about why they're useful, but
the oddball situations described simply don't matter to 99.99% of the
folks out there. I always tell our designers that I'd rather they
invest time making the user experience better on IE than to waste time
supporting text-only browsers. The audience simply isn't there.

 

Tried to get an e-mail through to you and it failed... LOL.. Damn... these
things got me intimidated... don't you know.. Looks like a ride is brewing
for this weekend.. Let's talk... Either send me an e-mail or catch me on
Yahoo Messenger as "outrider 007"... See ya'..

Your friend in Irving
Bill Walker

 

You might want to delete any contact record you have from me and create a
new one.
The above email addy is right, but I had originally put no-spam char's in
the "Reply To" part of my profile. I have removed those, though.

I had planned on pulling my tank off to get to the wiring harness. I hope I
can get that done before this weekend. Keep me posted.