FJR13 Opinions TOG etc.

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, 'Hog

IIRC Kawasaki were throwing a set of panniers in with the 1200 recently.

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WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

 

And an 'underpowered shed'. Don't forget that ...

 

Bear says...

 

'Hog says...

If you buy new they come with them FOC. IIRC Kawasaki are doing a
promotion to move the last of the ZZR12s out, the model is being
discontinued this year. ISTR when the first ZZR12s came on the market
they too came with Givi panniers as standard.

 

From the tests I've read plus a review on Motors TV the Yamaha has
always come out on top or in second place. Generally considered smooth,
refined and good for motorway work.

Not ridden one myself.

 

Judge has them.

 

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Whats a fair price to haggle for then?

'Hog

 

7k

 

Kin' ell. Thats a serious haggle.

 

The German magazine _Motorrad_ tested it against the new BMWK1200S, the
Hayabusa, the Fireblade, and some Kawasaki or other. The BMW came out
tops, but with the FJR just behind, 'let down' only by its lack of power
and its spongy suspension.

 

Wow - German magazine puts the BMW first - what a shock result. Look
what they compared it with, a Fireblade? some Kawasaki? the only bike in
that group anywhere similar to the BMW is the Yam so the dice weren't
loaded in any way at all were they? Since Kawasaki don't make a big
shaftie that would lose points in a touring bike road test and since
they chose a Fireblade instead of a Pan Euro they aren't exactly
comparing like with like are they.

As an aside, I always thought a ZZR1200 with a shaft would make a really
good tourer.

 

Yes. Kawasaki. Unfortunately, the customers get *saying* they wanted
road-orientated sports bikes, and then they went and bought R1s. So,
last year Kawasaki decided to build what the customers were spending
their money on, and we got the sublime 6R and 10R.

What people say they want is often not what they really want.
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Champ
GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
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*shrug*

 

Oh yes.

 

Took one out last weekend, lusted after it for ages, finally got
around to having a test drive, thought it would make a good BB
replacement.
It has no soul.
Sorry, but I came a way disappointed, it was comfy, it did the job,
but it has no 'thingy'

I decided to keep the Blackbird and buy some Gilles bars for it.

 

I think yes - especially as they tend to be long-term owned by the same
person. Sportsbikes tend to be swapped yearly or certainly every two
or three years - Tourers are kept much longer.

The Pan may appear a bit bland to an outsider who hasn't done big miles
on one. The first time I rode a Pan it was a bit like the first time I
booted a Win95 PC - it said 'Where do you want to go today?'. The
difference was the PC crashed, the Pan wanted to nip to Casablanca for
Tappas then home in time for a nice bottle of port.

The Pan (like other tourers) is not for fun on B roads - although it
will actually keep up with lots of more sporty bikes anywhere except on
the track - it's for eating big miles each day. I've done lots of 400
mile+days on mine and at the end of the day you just switch off the
bike knowing it (and you) will be ready to do it again tomorrow.

Any bike you live with for a long time becomes very personal - like an
old Landy - to an outsider it's just a Landy - to the owner it's a mate.

 

After Tog's comments on value it's a moot point. Can't see Hursts
knocking it down by over £2k.

'Hog

 

The cream still not working?

Not bad - struggling on - Just finished 300 page 3 year plan (and
watched my gaffer put his name on it before sending it on!)... But
that's all part of the game I suppose.

 

That was pretty much my reaction. In many ways.

 

Watch his face when you tell him you sent the wrong copy tomorrow..

Go on, it'll be fun.