First Race Meeting Report - Extra Long Extended Version (Warning- It's Really Long, Honest)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by antonye, May 3, 2005.

  1. antonye

    Lady Nina Guest

    Brace yourself, Dumpy birds are slippery.
    Aha - thanks.
    So they're at the top of the forks?
    Best avoided then.
    Ah, seen those, worked out that's an unthreaded bit so it can clamp
    two bits together - am I right?
    Near the rear?
    And then mr spark makes it go boom.
    So basically you cut them up - but they might fall off
    I think it has something to do with the twisty go handle.
    Why would you want them to move side to side?
    It does thanks. Anything mechanical confuses me, the style of
    thinking to see how it all fits together and works is a bit beyond me.
    Not enough time spent with old blokes standing around with a cup of
    tea and a fag and getting oily when I was at an impressionable age.
     
    Lady Nina, May 3, 2005
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  2. antonye

    Pip Guest

    ... when wet.
    Steering stem. That's the bit /between/ the forks, the one that ends
    with the big fuckoff nut below your ignition (that's the bit where the
    keys go in). The bearings fit in their races between the steering
    stem and the headstock and their freedom of movement is what allows
    you to turn the bars.
    The shank is machined to the exact diameter of the hole it fits
    through, generally. Used in situations where there is sideways
    ("shear") stress on the fastener and threads would wear away.
    In the middle. Pegs. Called a rearset because it offsets the pegs
    rearwards of the actual mounting point. Look at the bolts holding it
    on in relation to the centreline of the footrest.
    After Mr and Mrs valve have opened to let it into the combustion
    chamber.
    SFW? That's racing - so they tell me.
    To equalise their position between the pads. Allows the pads (and by
    inference, the pistons that push the pads out) to take up their own
    position (or "set") that they find comfotable, then being fully
    floating allows the disc to remain in close contact with the pads.
    This position is only variable by a tiny amount, but is enough to
    enable more efficient braking. Most of the time - but as with
    anything of this nature, wehn it works it is fine - when it goes even
    slightly out of kilter it's a fucking nightmare.
    There's plenty of time for that. You're still an impressionable youth
    .... or so Matt tells me.
     
    Pip, May 3, 2005
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  3. antonye

    Krusty Guest

    Just to put the carb thang into girly speak, you know those perfume
    atomisers that old grannies use? They've got a jar that the perfume
    goes in, a lid with plastic pipe that does down into the jar, a nozzle
    that the perfume comes out of & a squeezy rubber bulb to operate it.
    When you squeeze the rubber bulb it forces air at speed through the
    nozzle. This creates a vacuum where the air passes over the top of the
    plastic pipe, which sucks the perfume up from the bottle. The perfume
    gets mixed with the air (atomised) then squirts out the nozzle.

    Carbs work in pretty much the same way, except the air flow is
    generated by the vacuum created in the engine when the piston goes
    down, helped along by a ram-air system & pressurised airbox on most
    sportsbikes (or a turbo/supercharger if fitted). The carb's float bowl
    is the equivalent of the perfume jar i.e. that's where the petrol sits.
    Then there's an emulsion tube, main jet & needle (and a primary jet for
    small throttle openings) which together replace the perfume bottle's
    plastic pipe and control the amount of petrol passed up to the
    airstream. Finally a slide or butterfly valve connected to the throttle
    controls the amount of air that's allowed through - i.e. how hard you
    squeeze the rubber bulb.

    It's obviously a lot more complex than that, & different types of carbs
    work in different ways, but that's the gist of it.
     
    Krusty, May 3, 2005
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  4. antonye

    Lady Nina Guest

    That's still a good album. Up there with Thunder in the cheesy rock
    that's actually stood the test of time.
    Yes, yes, that bit I worked out (wonders whether to tell the wondering
    why the bike hadn't started story) a while back.
    What's a race? A channel?
    The headstock is the bit with the nut?
    I had to break that down piece by piece to work it out. It's weird, it
    is just a blind spot, like mechanical dyslexia, I look at the words
    but they seem to shift around.
    Ah and this is where Mr Eaton comes in with his tools that measure and
    make mechanical things?
    The fastener being the shank we were talking about, or is this another
    fastener? And what situations cause sideways stress?
    makes sense.
    See there's too many sets in there, I'm getting distracted by badgers.
    Will do.

    snip
    OK that makes perfect sense where as the bald mechanical stuff didn't
    sink in. However if I think of them as little people it works - weird.

    So there's an element of 'feel' to good mechanics then?
    So less distance to travel to get the brakes on.

    Must only give you tiny amount of time advantage though, mind you I
    suppose their racing to win not just for a laugh.
    Sticky brakes touching intermittently?
    " "

    is the best option here I think.
     
    Lady Nina, May 3, 2005
    #24
  5. antonye

    Champ Guest

    Not quite that bad - usually the rider attempting to overtake is doing
    it at the point where you are both on the brakes, about to turn into
    the corner. He attempts to come alongside - if you move out (away
    from the corner eg to the right for a left hander), you give him
    plenty of room, and he's then in control. If you move in, he has to
    chose between moving closer still, which tightens his corner entry
    line (and a tighter entry is slower [1]) or backing off (i.e. braking
    harder) and following your line (and you) through the corner.

    This would be much easier to describe when watching some racing :)

    [1] fnarr fnaar
     
    Champ, May 3, 2005
    #25
  6. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lady Nina
    The fastener is the bolt.

    <THWAP>

    There, that was sideways stress.

    Clear now?

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 3, 2005
    #26
  7. antonye

    MattG Guest

    Wicked Uncle Nigel said...
    Oi! No belting my bird.

    That's my job.
     
    MattG, May 3, 2005
    #27
  8. antonye

    Krusty Guest

    That's the kiddie - makes planes fly, engines go vroom, AND masks the
    smell of wee on old women. Top bloke that Bernoulli.
     
    Krusty, May 3, 2005
    #28
  9. antonye

    Lady Nina Guest

    That's good that is. ta.
     
    Lady Nina, May 3, 2005
    #29
  10. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, MattG
    That wasn't a belt, that was merely sideways stress.
    Good man. Here, have a club. Now, back to your cave.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 3, 2005
    #30
  11. antonye

    Ginge Guest

    You know way too much about perfume.
     
    Ginge, May 3, 2005
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  12. antonye

    Krusty Guest

    Perfume, no - atomisers, yes. Something to do with using my mum's
    crystal & silk one (inherited from her grandmother) as an airbrush
    because I couldn't afford one of those funky Badger ones. The resulting
    trauma will be with me til the day I die.
     
    Krusty, May 3, 2005
    #32
  13. antonye

    Lady Nina Guest

    I love it when I hear tales of mums striking fear into their little
    ones hearts. Gives me something to aim for.
     
    Lady Nina, May 3, 2005
    #33
  14. antonye

    Dan White Guest

    I think threatening one of yours at the BOSM with publishing baby photos of
    him was a good start.

    <small voice>
    Although I might have threatened him with a haircut :)
    </sv>
     
    Dan White, May 3, 2005
    #34
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    Simes Guest

    Bear said:
    He deserves to lose his account - we don't allow top posting on this ng.
     
    Simes, May 3, 2005
    #35
  16. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember "Krusty"
    The scent of lavender still haunts you, eh?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 3, 2005
    #36
  17. antonye

    Lady Nina Guest

    That's just playing.
    Oh I wish. But he 'wants to grow it long' so it has to go through the
    shit stage - I think it lasts about 10 years until they decided to get
    it cut.
     
    Lady Nina, May 3, 2005
    #37
  18. antonye

    Krusty Guest

    Department stores are the worst. If one of those sales people comes
    towards me brandishing an aftershave tester I run screaming from the
    building.

    <twitch>
     
    Krusty, May 3, 2005
    #38
  19. antonye

    Dan White Guest

    Heh, did that myself, to piss off my parents :)

    Have to confess, when I saw the little tyke, the first thing I did was turn
    to the wife and say, "Oh look. Supergrass Lite" :)
     
    Dan White, May 3, 2005
    #39
  20. antonye

    antonye Guest

    Round 2 - Castle Coombe
    Saturday 4th June - Races 3 and 4

    Round 3 - Snetterton
    Saturday 25th June - Race 5 - Time Trial
    (part of the KRC 24-Hour race event)

    Round 4 - Donington Park
    Saturday 13th August - Races 6 and 7

    Round 5 - Brands Hatch Indy
    Sunday 18th September - Races 8 and 9

    Round 6 - Cadwell Park Full Circuit
    Sunday 9th October - Races 10 and 11
     
    antonye, May 3, 2005
    #40
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