FFS - euro elections

you thick, thick, thick ****.

 

No, now you are talking bollocks. Not voting is the fault of boters, not
politicians. Politicians would prefer that people didn't vote and they
could get on with earn^H^H^H^H running the country

 

So, when no polling card had arrived, you didn't think to check up ????

 

And Firefox hid the real extension. Ta muchly!

 

Oh, I see.

In that case I'd like to revise my original comment of "You muppet" to
be "You unfunny muppet", and extend my sincere apologies to all real
Muppets who are genuinely funny.

 

YTC#1 posted:

Not going to argue this anymore. Suffice to say that whether or not I
had voted, the result would be exactly the same. That is all it
takes.

 

No they do not. It may not appear on the annual balance sheet at the
long term liability cost but the Unitary charges and the Contracts are
not "hidden" as you suggest.

The single most obvious use of PFI is to fund infrastructure which is
due to last (say) 20 or more years, preventing short term savings by
robbing the future generations of the planned maintenance. Look at
decaying school & hospital buildings etc the country over.

There have been bad PFI contracts, Caveat Emptor, but I have heard good
ones criticised. "The unitary charge is too high and we could have done
it cheaper internally". Well that's because PFI accurately calculates
the long term value of maintaining infrastructure and
equipment/refreshes. Where you really get hidden costs is in NHS
Trusts, Councils etc hiding the true cost of recovering decaying assets.

 

If you had a professional need to look at some best practice, yes.

 

he'll certainly try to sell you the idea of one.

 

I think not!

 

From which point of view?

From the point of view of the financier, I could list dozens.

My employer would not have needed to set up a separate division with
around 30 staff to provide PFI finance if there weren't any "good"
ones.

 

Have I missed something? Hog originally stated "PFI *contract*", which
to me seems a whole different kettle of fish to "PFI *project*".

I think I'm blaming Jim.

 

From which point of view?

 

ITYF that the "Qualifying Date" for entry on to the electoral roll is in
October of each year, which is over six months ago. You'll be
registered at your previous address, which is where you should have gone
to vote. It is your responsibility to know this, nobody else's.

 

Wow, strange logic.

No one votes, so the result stays the same.

 

YTC#1 posted:

That's not what I meant.

*My* vote (yes, I voted), in one of the safest constituencies there is
for an incumbent, made not a bit of difference either way, whatever my
decision. Pissing in the wind, or one voice unheard among many?

That is one source of voter apathy.

If I don't agree with any party, for whom do I vote? Tactical voting
is only of value in marginals.

There are so many considerations. The lack of trust in politicians in
general, disillusionment with the party system and/or the democratic
process itself. There is no simple answer.

 

You do like to say things like that

Unless sufficient people vote the same way as yourself, it doesn't work,
does it ?

 

Which of the seven seats that were retained were you voting for?

 

SD posted:

Apologies - confusing myself. This is a cast-iron safe Parliamentary
seat; not sure how that compares to EU election. My vote went to Lib
Dem, for what it's worth.

I'm quite disturbed that there's a EU political party with a declared
religious priority. Not sure I like that idea at all.

 

Should exclude the cunts automagically.