FBOTY#2003 RESULT!!!!!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Entwisi, Jan 20, 2006.

  1. Entwisi

    Scraggy Guest

    In UK yes, but invested in Romania or the Baltic states, for instance, it
    would stand a fair chance of adding to a chaps retirement fund.
     
    Scraggy, Jan 21, 2006
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  2. From what I can pick up, there's a lot of price rising going on if the
    locals know they're selling to an outsider.
    Afaik, it's still possible to pick up some very nice cheap places in
    Croatia, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, etc, if you take your time and
    really have a look around on the ground.

    One does, of course, always run the risk of being resented by locals
    both as an outsider and as one who has priced locals out of a house.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 21, 2006
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  3. Entwisi

    Daz Guest

    On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:21:28 +0000, Andy Bonwick

    Exactly, hence my reply to TOG about people getting private medical
    cover. He's fucked for life with this one as its an existing injury.

    I'm not knocking Entwisi as he's done what he thinks is best. We know
    little about his situation but I see no reason for that to prevent us
    having a say. :eek:)
    <AOL>
     
    Daz, Jan 21, 2006
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  4. Entwisi

    Daz Guest

    On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:46:35 -0000, "Scraggy"

    Certainly not something I'd look at but if it's a possibility then why
    not. Property management in this country is bad enough for my liking.
     
    Daz, Jan 21, 2006
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  5. Entwisi

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Are you sure? I think I'd sooner invest money in a property over here
    and then rent it out to bring in a semi-regular income as well as the
    property increasing in value.

    Obviously the amount mentioned in the original post wouldn't buy you
    much in the way of property here but it might be enough for a deposit
    on a buy to rent mortgage.

    I'd still blow the money double quick because you can never have too
    many fast motorbikes and foreign holidays.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 21, 2006
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  6. Entwisi

    Buzby Guest

    I couldn't agree more - as I found out, when you're ill you want treatment
    fast - my medical bills for last year's viral episode are approaching
    £11,000, which to their credit, CWSA paid without a twitch, unlike Columbus
    travel insurance who it would appear are a bunch of swerving thieving gits,
    are refusing to pay out £400 on unused tickets as I was too ill to travel.

    I'm learning some important lessons about this travel insurance malarky and
    will report back when the argument has ended one way or another as it may
    well prove very useful to others.
     
    Buzby, Jan 21, 2006
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  7. In case anyone thinks I'm slagging people then I'm not. I agree with
    your comment above.
     
    Paul Corfield, Jan 21, 2006
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  8. Shan't. What are going to do now?
     
    Paul Corfield, Jan 21, 2006
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  9. Entwisi

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Pick on someone sensitive?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 21, 2006
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    BGN Guest

    Wassup?
     
    BGN, Jan 21, 2006
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    muddy Guest

    Well for one thing, those Irish cunts have not refunded the VAT they
    said they would.
     
    muddy, Jan 21, 2006
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  12. Entwisi

    BGN Guest

    Have you claimed the airport tax back?

    Were they charter tickets?

    Does your insurance company have the air tickets?
     
    BGN, Jan 21, 2006
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    muddy Guest

    It was all done through CIE Tours. We completed 3 different sets of
    paperwork. One was paid cash at the airport and the other two were
    supposed to be sent via post. Those never arrived.
     
    muddy, Jan 21, 2006
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    I believe naming a roundabout is the traditional next step.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jan 21, 2006
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  15. Entwisi

    BGN Guest

    You need to establish which type of tickets you should have received.
    There are three main types.

    E-tickets - these tickets are basically a receipt with a reference
    number. Ask your travel agent to re-issue them which they can do free
    of charge (to them).

    Scheduled flight tickets - you have paid tax for these tickets.

    Charter flight tickets - these are worthless.

    You can tell what kind of flight tickets you would have had by looking
    at the flight number. Scheduled flights start with two letters then
    some numbers (BA 247, NZ 1, UL 2439...) Charter flights start with
    three letters then some numbers (TCX 1234, FCA 47...) E-tickets are
    only available on scheduled routes. E-tickets are cheaper than
    Scheduled for the agent to issue so most IATA firms issue these now.
    If you have unused E-tickets or Scheduled flight tickets you (your
    insurance company) will be able to claim the airport tax back. If
    they are charter tickets no tax refund can be claimed.

    If your insurance company are sticking for the tickets then they may
    believe that you travelled on your tickets and are trying to claim
    fraudulently. As part of your insurance claim they will also claim
    the tax back on the tickets (without telling you) to help offset their
    costs. This is normal practice.

    I think the question you need to ask is the following: Why don't you
    have those two flight tickets? If they were posted to you please ask
    your travel agent the date they sent the tickets and ask your post
    office to do a trace on them. They won't find them, but it makes you
    look serious and you have a contact there.

    A more likely scenario will be that you told your travel agent that
    you weren't going and they CANCELLED the tickets before they were
    issued which cost them nothing or a percentage cost, but you have paid
    for them in full and they've classed them as pure profit. They should
    fill out an IATA TRA (Ticket Re-issue Authority) form and give that to
    their ticketing agent (internal or external) so that you can have a
    copy of both of the tickets, or at least a ticket receipt that you can
    give to your insurance company. This will piss them off but it seems
    perfectly reasonable that your travel agent should help you get proof
    that the "lost" tickets actually existed and were actually a live
    booking. If they are unwilling or cannot provide proof that the
    tickets ever existed then it's likely they'll start fobbing you off or
    bluffing and mentioning cancellation fees and their booking
    conditions. You just need proof that the tickets existed - they are
    your travel AGENT after all.

    If you booked accommodation through them then it's also worth noting
    that any company worth their salt will have a contract with the hotel
    agent that means they can cancel their reservation with them at any
    time up until 24 hours before departure without any fee whatsoever.
    This means that if you called up a few days before you were going and
    cancelled they would still have charged you the full rate for the
    hotel and pocketed everything or just lost the money for the first
    night (a no show). This is what you have travel insurance for.

    I would suggest asking your insurance company what kind of proof they
    need so they can refund your missing tickets. It's in their interest
    not to pay out but in my experience most are happy to pay out if you
    try to help them out.

    Was the holiday/tour Curtailed or Cancelled? Curtailed = You opened
    your front door to start your journey, perhaps took a few steps out,
    then decided against it and went back in. Cancelled = You didn't open
    your front door or attempt to make a trip to the airport.

    Some holiday firms "self-insure" against Cancellations (did you get
    the insurance from the same travel agent?) but they'll use an
    insurance comapny for anything after you've shut your front door.

    If you give me a bit more to go on I should be able to advise you a
    bit further.
     
    BGN, Jan 21, 2006
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    Buzby Guest

    <snip info from someone who looks like they know wots wot>

    My travel insurance [1] is renewed by direct debit on 12th September.

    In May I book 4 cheapish tickets for the family to Barcelona with BA for end
    of October costing £400 ex tax.

    Mid August I feel a bit moby, end of August early part September I get a
    rash, mid-end September I think I'm literally on my last legs. At the point
    of the insurance renewal I was just feeling a bit shite and just assumed
    whatecver it was would bugger off from whence it came. It never occured to
    me that I wouldn't be going to Barcelona and therefore I feel I had nothing
    to declare.

    Columbus have refused to pay up for tickets as they say I was ill before
    hand, didn't declare it to them on renewal, therefore up yours. They took
    great delight in pointing out, that as I first felt ill before the renewal,
    didn't notify them before the old policy expired and then declare it to them
    (so they could presumably exclude it in the new policy), I wasn't covered. I
    have been totally honest with them and think they are takibng the piss.

    So it seems the moral of the story is:-

    1: If you're annual insurance is running out between the time you book and
    you travel, if you feel even remotely ill, put them immdeiately on notice
    *before* your insurance runs out.
    2: Don't use Columbus

    [1] Provided through SWMBO's company [2], who won't be renewing.
    [2] She's the MD - they employ 14 people who travel.
     
    Buzby, Jan 21, 2006
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    BGN Guest

    When you renew your policy your insurance comapny will wish to know
    the following:

    Are you on any ongoing medication (what's it for?)
    Are you on any hospital waiting list?
    Have you ever had any illness or condition in the past that may be a
    material fact (Did you have a heart attack 8 years ago but there's
    nothing wrong with you now?)

    Have you had treatment from a doctor in the last twelve months for a
    serious illness? (Ask them what they define a reportable illness is.
    A cold? Falling over and hurting your finger? Hang over? Headaches?
    Sleeplessness? High blood pressure/cholesterol? Cancer? Where does
    'serious' start?)

    I think you need to look at your contract with the insurance company
    and see what they would have liked you to have done.

    The general rule is if you've got annual insurance and you book a
    holiday as soon as you suspect that you may not be able to travel you
    should contact your GP and ask him if you're fit to travel. If you
    are then great - tell your insurance company. They may ask for a
    certificate ("I certify that so and so is fit to travel on such and
    such a date, signed...") from your GP stating that you're fit to
    travel.

    Were you suffering from any specific or diagnosed illness when the
    insurance was renewed? Feeling a bit 'ugh' isn't specific and you
    could just be having a bad week. When did you seek consultation with
    your GP relating to the rash? Before your old insurance ran out? If
    you did then you are in the wrong for not telling your insurance
    company.

    The only way I think you can 'win' out of this would be to see your
    doctor and explain the situation to him. Ask if he is willing to
    write you a letter retrospectively saying that on the date that you
    booked the tickets you were indeed fit to travel. He doesn't need to
    fib, just date it as today and say "in March thingy was fine and
    there's no reason he couldn't travel." I wonder if your insurance
    underwriters would be willing to accept this as proof? Ask 'em. If a
    doctor's certificate saying you were fit to travel isn't proof enough
    then that might be unfair, but they could still be in the right with
    the renewal date thing.

    If you don't get any joy then please ask them for a copy of their Set
    Complaints Procedure for insurance claims and ask them if they work
    under the Association of British Insurers (ABI) code of conduct and
    ask if they're compliant with the Financial Services Authority (FSA) -
    they must reply to your enquiry relating to an insurance complaint
    under FSA regulations within 24 hours and if they cannot then the
    query becomes 'reportable' to the FSA who need to know why the query
    hasn't been sorted. None of this paragraph may change anything, but
    it will let them know you are serious, especially if you have a note
    from your GP saying you WERE fit to travel when you paid for the air
    tickets.
    Don't tell them that you knew you were ill for ages and then go and
    renew your insurance without telling them about this and don't book a
    holiday without medical advice and then just leave it.
    Well, obviously.
    No underwriter likes to pay out.
     
    BGN, Jan 21, 2006
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    muddy Guest

    No, mate; it's the VAT on all the shite the missus bought while we were
    there.
     
    muddy, Jan 21, 2006
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    Scraggy Guest

    It was the subject of a program on the box quite recently. Admittedly the
    investment sum was £100k giving an estimated return of ca £250-80k over 10
    years. Well worth a little research IMO. There are few enough emerging
    markets in easy hop distance of UK these days.

    And Ding.
     
    Scraggy, Jan 21, 2006
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    Buzby Guest

    When you renew your policy your insurance comapny will wish to know
    At the time of renewal I was *really* looking forward to going - it never
    occured to me I might be on my last legs (they thought I possibly had
    cancer) and that I may not be able to travel.

    Noted - I'll ask him.
    TBH I just felt off colour, so could see absolutely no reason as to declare
    it
    All part of the game I suppose.

    Anyway, *TYVM* for this, all duly noted and the sport shall commence. Either
    way it's going to cost them a lot more than than the original claim in lost
    business and administration time.
     
    Buzby, Jan 21, 2006
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