fatigue and motorcycling

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zebee Johnstone, Jan 11, 2005.

  1. http://www.roadsafety.mccofnsw.org.au/a/50.html

    Useful info for riders on how to decide if they are fatigued and what to
    do about it. It isn't always obvious....

    "Rider survey data shows that large numbers of motorcycles are on the
    road across the weekend and that distances covered are often large. The
    concentration of single vehicle crashes on Sunday afternoons and
    evenings (15%) may indicate fatigue as a factor in those crashes. They
    may represent the evening peak-hour for motorcycles on weekend trips."

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 11, 2005
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  2. Zebee Johnstone

    Boxer Guest

    After a saturday night on the turps around a rally campfire the 600-800
    kilometre ride home can ba a bit tyring.

    I generally stop under the shade of a large tree (have a large drink of
    water) and sleep for 30 minutes to an hour.

    In the worst cases I have occassionally booked into a pub/motel and made it
    home on Monday morning.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Jan 11, 2005
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    Yay, that was me after the SR500 Rally at Bethanga. Stayed Sunday
    night at the Bethanga Hotel.

    Dinner Bed & Breakfast cost me a huge $25 - I was a sick puppy and the
    hotel manager felt sorry for me. Normal price is $37.50.

    Kind regards
    Dave Milligan
     
    Dave Milligan, Jan 11, 2005
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  4. Zebee Johnstone

    Nev.. Guest

    "may"??? surely there's a demographic that can be drawn from the crash data?
    I'd have thought it more likely to be the Sunday afternoon scratchers rather
    than the rallygoers doing the crashing on sunday afternoons. I'd have thought
    the rallygoers would be more likely to be crashing on Sunday mornings.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Jan 11, 2005
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  5. In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:32:33 +1100
    Not if it is fatigue and not hangovers....

    What demographic? No one fills in "I'm a scratcher" on the crash forms :)

    and the cops have no idea what kind of bike, not that it matters, as you
    can tour on an R1 and hoon on a goldwing.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 11, 2005
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  6. Zebee Johnstone

    Nev.. Guest

    Zebee Johnstone wrote:

    True, but the amount of luggage scattered around the crash scene would be a
    pretty good indicator. And speaking of crashes... now that I have your
    attention Zebee... if someone crashes in NSW (single vehicle accident on an
    unsealed road) and police attend the accident scene and make an accident
    report and several months later issue an on the spot fine for negligent
    driving (riding), is it worth taking the matter further or is it simpler to
    just cough up the $182 and put it down to experience.. esp from interstate. I
    googled up an NSWMCC page on this topic and it did raise questions about this
    practice by the police. Are their any case studies?

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Jan 11, 2005
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  7. In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:18:34 +1100
    But not a scientific one. I hoon with panniers, others tour with credit
    cards.
    I have no idea. I suggest you contact a NSW lawyer, there are some who
    advertise in the bike mags and Riding On, the Ulysses mag.

    We do know that non-motorcycling police, and even some motorcycling ones
    have rider error as default, and take no note of things like road
    surface. The NSWMCC is trying to get more training of police who attend
    bike crashes. Part of this is things like the fatigue study - they
    won't take our word for it they are wrong, they want hard non-partisan
    evidence before they will change procedures.

    I was lucky when I took a dive that the attending police were both
    riders! One of them was looking very hard for the gravel he was sure
    had to be responsible.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 11, 2005
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  8. Zebee Johnstone

    Conehead Guest

    What time did breakfast arrive....mid-afternoon?
     
    Conehead, Jan 11, 2005
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    at 9am as I awoke. Was showered and in bed by 1pm the previous day. Up
    again at 7.30pm for dinner then slept all night till brekky at 9am on
    Monday. Magic.

    Kind regards
    Dave Milligan
     
    Dave Milligan, Jan 11, 2005
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  10. Zebee Johnstone

    GB Guest

    It's easy really. BA (Bikers Anon) ride on Sundays. Don't ride
    with BA, and you're fine.

    G
     
    GB, Jan 11, 2005
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  11. Zebee Johnstone

    smack Guest

    you missed the sarcasm.

    ordered dinner early and spent the next 4 hours chasing it up. Club asked
    for numbers who would be at pub for dinner.... and pub still only had 1 cook
    and 1 server.
     
    smack, Jan 11, 2005
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  12. Zebee Johnstone

    Kev Guest

    If you ever have a single vehicle accident ALWAYS say an animal ran in front
    of you, they can't do you for neg driving/riding. If you say there was
    gravel etc on the road, they'll claim you were riding too fast for the
    conditions.

    Try Mark Sternberg at Lawstop.Com (maybe .au on the end) - very helpful
    biking lawyer
     
    Kev, Jan 11, 2005
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