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  1. You know how they get the egg to be all small little perfectly cooked
    bits in your egg fried rice, how do they do that?


    I have been trying for years to get it how they get it and the best I
    have come up with is to add microwaved scrambled egg to the rice at the
    end of the cooking and although this is successful it seems to me to
    rather betray the whole object of the thing.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 20, 2006
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  2. Heat and fast and stirring.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 20, 2006
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  3. I cook the rice beforehand and let it go cold then get a frying pan really
    hot and add a little oil, then fry any bits and pieces I want in the rice
    like pork, prawns, pre-cooked onion, mushrooms, peas etc., then add the cold
    rice. When it's really hot I part the rice in two or three places and pour a
    little beaten egg directly onto the pan. Wait a few seconds for it to start
    cooking then stir it into the rice. If you keep it moving it breaks up into
    little pieces.

    Obviously leave out the bits and pieces stage if you just want egg fried
    rice.
     
    Mungo \Two Sheds\ Toadfoot, Nov 20, 2006
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  4. steve auvache

    Ace Guest

    Spot on. The trick is, of course, to get the pan, or preferably wok,
    very, very hot[1] first, making sure there's enough oil to really get
    the rice frying and hot before adding the egg. The most common mistake
    is to add the egg too soon, so it coagulates onto the warm grains of
    rice and just forms a soggy mess.

    [1] Use a good high-temperature oil like groundnut, and get it so hot
    it's just smoking.
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    Ace, Nov 20, 2006
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  5. Ace wrote
    More or less what I do but I rarely use cold rice and I don't use
    Chinese rice either, I use Basmati but cooked Chinese style. I do
    wonder if that makes a difference.


    That's the badger.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 20, 2006
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  6. steve auvache

    Spete Guest

    I'm surprised here. You get all hot and bothered about a few guys getting a
    good mullering, but no word...at all.... about the poor defenseless egg
    being beaten.

    :)
     
    Spete, Nov 20, 2006
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  7. steve auvache

    WavyDavy Guest

    Wot 'ee says.

    Pre-cook the rice (long grain, easy cook is best) and put aside.

    Prepare any things to be added (defrost peas, chop up ham/chicken etc)

    Beat egg till it's very very thin and runny.

    Heat oil 'til it's very very hot.

    Add egg and stir in quickly - it should absorb the oil and flash fry into
    little bits of omelette.

    Add rice.

    Stir for a while and break it up. If pre-cooked and cooled properly it will
    fall into wok in one lump, once it has broken down back into separate grains
    you can:

    Add other bits

    Cook for a few more minutes

    Add a few splashes light soy and finish cooking

    Serve.

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Nov 20, 2006
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  8. steve auvache

    Ace Guest

    I use Basmati too, but just plain boiled, and not for too long either.
    If you steam it using the 'exact quantity' method I'd recommend using
    slightly less water than usual.

    Letting it go cold, open to the air so it dries a bit too, allows the
    rice to coat with the oil so that it doesn't break down and release
    its starch whil frying. It can be OK done from warm, as long as you've
    let it drain well and left it spread out for ten-fifteen minutes. But
    cold is better.
    Of course, you can cheat and just drbble the egg down the side of the
    wok before mixing in, but then it tends to overcook and doesn't coat
    the rice as well.

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    Ace, Nov 20, 2006
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  9. steve auvache

    Adrian Guest

    Ace () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
    saying :
    All very complicated...

    I just boil some rice (Basmati, of course, what else exists?), drain it,
    lob it in a frying pan (the wok is otherwise engaged with the rest of the
    meal) with a little oil, lob a beaten egg and plenty of Five Spice in
    there, and stir it around until it's all evenly coloured. Job done, never
    had any big bits of egg in there.
     
    Adrian, Nov 20, 2006
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  10. steve auvache

    Ace Guest

    Cheating. And not as nice, IMO.
    No. That's definitely cheating, but more importantly it will not give
    the authentic effect. See Si's and my other post for a better way.


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    Ace, Nov 20, 2006
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  11. steve auvache

    WavyDavy Guest

    It may be cheating but that's the method taught to me by the owner of a
    successful Chinese restaurant in Derby a number of years ago, so if it works
    for them....... etc etc etc

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Nov 20, 2006
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  12. steve auvache

    Hog Guest

    and eggs like scrotes - it's easier just to pay someone else to beat
    them
     
    Hog, Nov 20, 2006
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  13. steve auvache

    darsy Guest

    err, fried rice in the original chinese style would have generally
    been made for breakfast with left-over rice from the night before.
     
    darsy, Nov 21, 2006
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  14. steve auvache

    Ace Guest

    It was the 'easy-cook' bit to which I was referring.

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    Ace, Nov 21, 2006
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  15. steve auvache

    darsy Guest

    oh right, ISWYM. I thought you were objecting to the pre-cook bit. In
    which case, I completely agree - quick/easy cook rice (and pasta for
    that matter) is very much inferior to the real thing.
     
    darsy, Nov 21, 2006
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  16. steve auvache

    Ace Guest

    Well, of course if a restaurant does it it must be right, eh? Which
    one was it anyway?

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    Ace, Nov 21, 2006
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  17. steve auvache

    Pip Guest

    Indeed it would. "Today's boiled rice is tomorrow's fried rice".
    Hope they've cooled it properly, or that is the very best way to play
    Bacillus Cereus Roulette.
     
    Pip, Nov 21, 2006
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  18. steve auvache

    darsy Guest

    what /is/ the recommended way to do it, from a H&S point of view?
    Given that I've never got ill eating re-cooked rice, I must be
    generally doing it right, but I'd welcome your opinion.
     
    darsy, Nov 21, 2006
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  19. steve auvache

    Pip Guest

    Take your boiled rice and spread it in a shallow tray to cool. Within
    90 minutes, remove the rice to a refrigerator and keep it there
    overnight. When reheating, ensure it is raised to 70 degC or above
    and kept there for a couple of minutes. Consume immediately and throw
    away any leftovers.

    The danger lies in leaving rice hanging around at kitchen
    temperatures, as the bacteria produce toxins that cannot be removed by
    frying or boiling. Basic rules apply - get it hot, keep it hot, then
    cool it quickly and keep it cool. Reheating is potentially fraught,
    so rule one applies again - get it as hot as poss and keep it there
    until ready to serve.
     
    Pip, Nov 21, 2006
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  20. steve auvache

    darsy Guest

    pretty much what I do - in fact, apart from in summer, I tend to put
    it in a cold tray, cover it and put it outside on the window-sill for
    60-90 minutes before putting it in the fridge.
    no-way would I consider triple-cooking rice.
    I tend to get it hot in the microwave, and then throw it into the pan
    for the last couple of minutes, when the other ingredients are already
    as hot as possible.
     
    darsy, Nov 21, 2006
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