Faired Bikes

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by sweller, Jun 12, 2005.

  1. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Idle thought...

    When did faired road bikes become the norm and which models?
     
    sweller, Jun 12, 2005
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    Mid-eighties?

    900R/GSXR750/FZ750 sort of era?

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    Lozzo Guest

    sweller says...
    It sort of started in the early 80s with little nose fairings on stuff
    like GPZs and suchlike, and they just got a bit bigger until they
    became the full sports bike fairings we see today. The first proper
    fairings I saw on a production bike that looked like they belonged
    there were on the GPZ A models. Prior to that bikes looked like they
    were designed as unfaired, until some half-wit moulded a bit of plastic
    to stick on afterwards. Unless you count shite like Goldwings and
    CBX1000 Prolinks.
     
    Lozzo, Jun 12, 2005
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    Shep© Guest

    And a sad day it was IMHO.Why hide the engine?

    Why think you are on a race-track?

    And why do so many die every fucking day on bikes sold that are way
    too powerful for the average person to contain :/
     
    Shep©, Jun 12, 2005
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    How many die "every day", then?

    I doubt the power output has much to do with accidents, anyway.

    How many of these daily deaths occur at full chat, then?
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    Lozzo Guest

    Shep© says...
    Because they are invariably ugly.
    Who says we are. Sure the bikes are race replicas, but the throttle
    goes both ways and there's no-one telling me that I have to ride flat
    out everywhere.
    Speak for yourself.
    Most of us can and do handle the bikes we buy quite happily. Deaths are
    rare and most of them aren't caused by excessive power or even
    excessive speed, they are caused by car drivers.
     
    Lozzo, Jun 13, 2005
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  7. if they do so purely 'cos of the power output, viz. by driving too fast for
    the conditions, then I regard it as Darwinian selection.

    If, rather, they die 'cos some other **** is unable to take the elementary
    step of looking before pullign out of a side road, then they or rather their
    relatives have my every sympathy.
     
    Austin Shackles, Jun 13, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    Why hide the battery.
    Hmm. As I recall, you turned out to be a bit of a troll last time you
    were here.
     
    Champ, Jun 13, 2005
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  9. sweller

    Champ Guest

    As Lozzo says, the GPZ "A" models in 1982 were the first mass market
    jap bikes to have top half fairings, although Ducati and Moto Guzzi
    had put fairings on some of their bike in the 70s (All the Le Mans had
    fairings, no?).

    The GPZ900R was, I think, the first mass market bike to have a full
    fairing in 1984 (I'm excluding limited edition bikes like the CB1100R
    here), tho the GPz750 turbo followed it very shortly. Then in 1985
    there was the GSX-R 750, followed in 1986 by the GSX-R 1100, and
    GPz600 - from here on any bike with sporting pretentsions had a full
    fairing.
     
    Champ, Jun 13, 2005
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  10. I don't, on mine...
    hehe. I was starting to think that sort of thing too.
     
    Austin Shackles, Jun 13, 2005
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    Loz H Guest

    Personally, I find some engines a thing of beauty, and hiding them is a
    shame. Then again, I find beauty in all kinds of mechanical contraptions so
    wibble-de-flip..

    *ding*
     
    Loz H, Jun 13, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    "If you expected to find the Ddol-las homepage here, then you're about
    to be disappointed, because it's moved."

    Time for a bit of a sig update, Austin
     
    Champ, Jun 13, 2005
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    YTC#1 Guest

    Only the norm for those that bought them :)
     
    YTC#1, Jun 13, 2005
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    Naqerj Guest

    Well... you can go back a lot earlier than that: Ariel Leader, Vincent
    Black Prince, Francis-Barnett Something-or-other, Excelsior Skutabike
    (note how they get more & more horrible as the list progresses). I
    reckon they all count as mass market models [1] but, going back to the
    original question, they were hardly the norm.

    [1] well, 3 out of the 4 anyway.
     
    Naqerj, Jun 13, 2005
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    'Cos modern engines are ugly as sin. Even BMW don't make "clean"
    engines any more. Which is a shame.
    Eh? I'm sitting at home, nowhere near a racetrack TYVM.
    Stats? Especially, stats that show that the many deaths are power
    related?
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 13, 2005
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    Tim Guest

    1930s probably.
     
    Tim, Jun 13, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    You need a better dictionary.
     
    Champ, Jun 14, 2005
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    YTC#1 Guest

    ITYM Calendar
     
    YTC#1, Jun 14, 2005
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    kenney Guest

    It started well before that, of course earlier fairings were there to
    make keeping dry and clean easier. Oh and of course the influence of
    racing as well. Consider the Velocette LE, Aerial Leader and the "dustbin
    fairing". Come to that there is the Vincent series D as well. If I go
    through the books I have I can probably date windshields etc. back to the
    thirties or earlier.

    Disclaimer, it is about thirty years since I had a bike, I got soft when
    I passed my car test.

    Ken Young
     
    kenney, Jun 14, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    Yes we know all this, but the question was more 'when did they become
    the norm'.

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