'Extra lane' plan to be extended

And what's wrong with the attributions? It quite clearly shows who wrote
what. Notice the way the indentations of the attributions, match the
indentations of the quotes.

Of your utter foolish ignorance? I never once attributed SteveH's
comments as yours. Perhaps you could show me where that was done? No?
Can't do it can you?

Cya
Simon

 

Rubbish. On two-lane motorways it's not too bad (in any country) but
put almost any of them on a three-lane road and they don't have a
fucking clue.

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It reads as if the quoted text was from Pip. Well, if you close oone
eye and squint, anyway.

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+1

the reason lane discipline is worse here (uk) is because we have more 3-lane
roads. people can cope with the idea of returning after overtaking when
there are 2 lanes; when there are more they get confused and it all goes
to pot.

i do think, though, that it's been going on here so long that now a sort
of class culture has developed around it, and most drivers drive in a
particular lane because they feel it's their station or something. "i'm
a fast-lane kind of person", "i'm a sensible person so i belong in the
middle lane", that kind of thing. and they will choose the lane that they
feel befits them almost immediately on joining the road, and stay in it
for the duration.

 

And of course they can't do that in lane one of a three-or-more-lane
motorway, because they might wake up to find themselves on a slip road.

 

Only because the traffic is mostly lighter. When the traffic's as
heavy as the UK's the lane discipline is just as bad.

 

Yes, dear.

Once you come down from the light fitting, all I wanted to know was
why you'd 'piggy-backed' on my post (cutting my contribution but
leaving the attribution line) rather than replying to Steve directly.

Can you spell 'signature separator'?

 

"I drive in the middle lane. The trucks and slow vehicles use the
inside lane, and I look down on them. The Fast Boys and reps use the
outside lane and I look up to them"

That sort of thing?

 

like fine wines, ideas taste better once you've sloshed them around inside
your head for a bit, gargled, spat them out, and had another glug.

 

Fair point. I actually had France in mind.

 

After a couple of years of commuting between Port de Bagnolet and
Aulnay-sous-Bois, up and down the A1, I wouldn't commend the French on any
aspect of their driving whatsoever.

 

There's probably a stock of old PIATs somewhere in the MoD warehouses.
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Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

 

If they are sitting there until a faster vehicle comes up behind them, and
only then bother to move back over, surely that points to poor lane
discipline. They should move back over as soon as they've overtaken
whatever it was they pulled out to overtake.

Don't get me wrong, moving over for the faster vehicle is good but it's a
separate thing.

 

you spent 2 years commuting to a place and you still can't spell it?

*impressed*

 

It *was* over 20 years ago. And given that both places are (or at least, were)
shitholes, I tried my best to expunge the memory.

And they were still crap drivers.

 

I agree about the laziness. I wonder how many on here are guilty of another
one - being too lazy to put the handbrake on at traffic lights?

Not putting the handbrake on can cause the driver behind to be dazzled by
brake lights, makes it more likely the car will be shunted forward if hit
from behind, wears out the clutch quicker when the footbrake isn't used and
will see the car roll back on hills when the footbrake is released.

A few short years ago drivers used the handbrake, but in a short space of
time it appears to have become redundent.

Just why isn't the handbrake being used?

 

Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, MrBitsy typed:

I'm all for the police patrolling the motorway network and doing everything
necessary to ensure that some of the cretinous driving that I see is
suitably rewarded. What I don't accept is that an army of volunteers will
necessarily have any crediblity with the average driver, and may in fact do
more harm than good.

Well you certainly come across that way.

So did I, IAM for car and bike, and I think I benefited from them (with some
reservations). I did them to improve my own driving/riding, not for any
other reason, and certainly not as a "certificate" so that I could tell
other people how to drive properly, which is what I (maybe mistakenly) read
into your your postings.

No. Anyone who tries to improve what they do is entirely to be applauded in
my view. It's when they assume the right (and to some, even the duty) to
pass comment on others that they become pompous show-offs. I find the
holier-than-thou thing irritating, but my real criticism is that it is
likely to be counter-productive. If someone tried to give me a
demonstration drive to show "how it should be done", I would feel patronised
and I would probably react negatively. I imagine most drivers would feel
the same. A telling-off from a proper police officer (not a NIP from a
camera) would probably be a lot more effective. More police, using sensible
discretion, fewer cameras and *no* citizen volunteers would be the way
forward in my opinion.

It was never my intention to make you sick, but if that is your reaction to
my suggestion, perhaps you need to look at your sense of proportion.

 

Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, MrBitsy typed:

Your logic is failing you here. I might agree there is a problem, but that
doesn't mean that every "solution" to it is necessarily sensible or
workable.

Where did I say that?

Where did I say that?

You and me both, pal.

 

Automatic gearboxes becoming more popular?

 

When I was a software engineer, I had a conversation with one of our sales
staff about overtaking. He said if he was in lane three, he would move over
for a car with headlight wipers, but cars without would have to wait.

He was serious!