EPA New Ruling (long Post)

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by Elmer McKeegan, May 31, 2004.

  1. EPA for the Layman

    The Motorcycle Riders Foundation's (MRF) Review of the EPA's Emissions
    Regulations for Highway Motorcycles for 49 States (except California )
    issued in December, 2003

    In December of 2000, the Motorcycle Riders Foundation (MRF) learned that the
    United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) was proposing
    California-style emissions standards for the rest of the country for all
    motorcycles, street and off-road models, in a single rulemaking process. The
    MRF, working with our Supporting State Motorcyclists' Rights Organizations
    (SMROs), was instrumental in having street motorcycles removed from that
    process in September, 2001 and placed into a separate EPA "proposed rule."

    The MRF and SMROs continued to work diligently to impact the final rule
    through the comment period and into the rule approval process. For a
    complete chronological review of the many steps taken by the MRF, visit our
    website at www.mrf.org/epa.php.

    The EPA issued their final emissions regulations for highway motorcycles for
    49 states on December 23, 2003. These new regulations will become effective
    in stages, starting in 2006 and harmonizing with California 's standards in
    2010. You can view the entire 49-page EPA rule by visiting their website at
    http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-AIR/2004/January/Day-15/a006.pdf. While this
    new rule dramatically reduces tail pipe emissions, there are some exemptions
    written into it for kit bikes, custom motorcycles, and small volume makers.

    The MRF does not believe that the exemptions are broad enough or that the
    rules, as written, fulfill the needs of highway motorcyclists, the small
    volume makers and the aftermarket. We fully intend to continue to work for
    revision of some parts of the rules.

    Here we present some of the most frequently asked questions from street
    riders and an explanation of what the rules will mean to you. This
    explanation does not apply to California.


    What will this new EPA rule mean to me?

    If you are going to buy a new motorcycle at your local dealer, the only
    things you may notice are that by the 2006 model year, most motorcycles will
    come with fuel injection and will require special diagnostic tools for
    service work. Some may have catalytic converters in the exhaust pipes. Both
    are in use in some models already. There has been no change to the
    "anti-tampering" provision of the Clean Air Act.

    How will this rule affect the motorcycles I already own?

    These new EPA regulations only apply to motorcycles built for 2006 and
    later. You will not be required to retrofit your current motorcycles to make
    them comply with the new rules.

    Can I modify the engine or exhaust on my 2006 or later motorcycle?

    The new EPA rule contains the same language that the old rule contained
    about this subject - modifying your motorcycle's engine or exhaust is
    considered "tampering." The Clean Air Act, Section 203(a) states that it is
    illegal, "for any person to remove or render inoperative any device or
    element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle in compliance with
    regulations under this title prior to its sale and delivery to the ultimate
    purchaser or after such sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser."

    Can I still build my own custom motorcycle?

    Starting in 2006, it will be legal for you to build your own custom
    motorcycle. In the new EPA rules this is called a "kit bike" and it will not
    have be to tested to verify that it conforms to the new emissions standards.
    There are, however, some very specific rules that will apply to your kit
    bike.

    a.. You are only allowed one emissions-exempt kit bike in your lifetime.
    b.. You may not sell your once-in-a-lifetime emissions-exempt kit bike for
    five years after its final assembly.
    c.. You may have someone else assemble your kit bike for you as long as
    you have purchased the components prior to the start of the assembly.
    d.. You cannot build your kit bike by modifying a factory-built motorcycle
    that was certified to meet EPA emissions standards. You must start with a
    new engine and frame.
    e.. Under the existing rule, all kit bikes are supposed to be tested and
    certified to meet the 1979 EPA rules.
    f.. An EPA-exempt kit bike can be used on the road without any travel
    restrictions.
    What is meant by "one exempt kit bike for a lifetime?"

    This refers to the wording of the new EPA rule that allows for the
    construction of your kit bike and it refers to your lifetime. You are
    allowed one EPA-exempt kit motorcycle that has no restrictions on how and
    where it may be used under this rule. The exemption is for the motorcycle
    owner's lifetime. When and if a new rule comes out that addresses engine
    certification, the lifetime exemption may be rewritten.


    Do I have to assemble my EPA exempt kit bike myself?

    No, you do not have to assemble your kit bike yourself. You can pay someone
    else to assemble your kit bike after you purchase the "kit" or components
    that will be assembled into the final motorcycle.

    Can I build EPA-exempt kit bikes and sell them?

    Under this rule, building EPA-exempt kit bikes and selling them to other
    people would not be allowed. The ultimate owner must own the components
    before the assembly process begins. You can build as many kit bikes as there
    are people who are willing to pay you to assemble their components. People
    or businesses that purchase kit bikes to assemble and then sell them are not
    covered under this exemption, but may be able to use the "custom motorcycle"
    exemption explained later in this document.

    What happens if my EPA-exempt kit bike is wrecked or stolen?

    The way this new EPA rule is written now, you would not be able to replace
    your stolen or destroyed EPA-exempt motorcycle. You are only allowed one
    EPA-exempt kit bike in your lifetime under the new EPA rule.

    What if a court orders me to sell my EPA-exempt motorcycle?

    Under this federal law, you are not allowed to sell your EPA-exempt kit bike
    for five years after the date of final assembly, even in case of death,
    bankruptcy, or divorce. After five years, your EPA-exempt motorcycle can be
    sold. If you do sell your EPA-exempt kit bike, you will not be allowed to
    own another exempt kit motorcycle.

    Will I be able to build my one EPA-exempt motorcycle whenever I choose?

    That is going to depend on how the EPA looks at the data California brings
    to the process in 2006. The California Air Resources Board (CARB) has
    similar rules that take effect in 2004 and will be up for review in 2006.
    The EPA is planning to review this data and other exemptions when CARB
    reviews the effectiveness of their regulations. When that review is
    completed, the EPA may choose to regulate all motorcycle engine
    manufacturers at that time so that all engines, including those built by the
    aftermarket industry, will be required to meet the EPA's emissions standards
    when they leave the factory. If they decide on that course of action, they
    feel the exemption for kit bikes will no longer be needed because there will
    only be EPA-compliant engines available for builders. The California process
    will not have anything to do with the exemption. When and if the EPA sets
    standards for engines, the kit exemption would likely go away.

    Are there any other exemptions that might affect me?

    There is one other type of exemption that will apply to riders, and that is
    the "custom motorcycle" (CM). This is like the kit bike in that it does not
    have to meet the EPA emissions standards, but different in several other
    important ways. A builder may build 24 or fewer per year and sell them
    commercially by notifying the EPA and including a tag somewhere on the
    motorcycle stating: THIS MOTORCYCLE IS EXEMPT FROM EPA EMISSIONS
    REQUIREMENTS. ITS USE ON PUBLIC ROADS IS LIMITED PURSUANT TO 40 CFR
    86.407-78(c). The 25th and all subsequent motorcycles built that year by
    that builder must all comply with the new emissions standards. An individual
    can own as many of the CM exemption motorcycles as he/she can afford.
    However, there are severe restrictions on how and where they can be used on
    the roads. Use on public roads is limited to display purposes, such as
    traveling to and from motorcycle shows. This could be a show in your
    hometown or a show on the other side of the country. The distance does not
    matter, only the reason for the travel.

    Do I have to buy the components for my CM before the assembly starts?

    No, the builder can buy all the parts and build the motorcycle before he/she
    even has a customer for it. However, when done in this manner, the travel
    restrictions will apply to this motorcycle for as long as this rule is in
    effect. The motorcycle will have to comply with the restrictions on public
    road use.

    Will there be limits on how many miles I can ride my CM?

    No, the only limitation is the display purpose clause. The CM is not
    supposed to be used as a daily ride; it is intended to be a show bike that
    can only be ridden to shows or displays.

    Where can I obtain additional copies of this document?

    You can download and print as many copies of this document as you need by
    visiting the MRF website at www.mrf.org/epa.php and scrolling down to the
    link entitled "EPA For The Layman." There is access to a downloadable pdf
    version of this document located at the bottom of that page.

    Who should I contact for more information about the new EPA rule?

    Dave Dwyer
    MRF Government Relations Assistant

    608/742-0144
     
    Elmer McKeegan, May 31, 2004
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  2. Hybrid is what I am looking for too. I'm waiting a bit longer to see if the
    next gen of hybrid's are going to be like. Depending on how much longer my
    vehicle holds out, I'll be looking 2006.

    I'll be interested when the motorcycle industry really decides to head for
    hybrids. But right now it still looks to be 2008 or 2010 before anyone
    really puts one up.
    So tooling and constructing a bike from scratch is considered a poser. Now
    I understand the actual "kit bikes" you might be describing, but what the
    epa is calling kit bikes includes those that do all the work theirselves and
    build from the ground up.
     
    Elmer McKeegan, Jun 1, 2004
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  3. It does mean however to you and me that if we build our own bike, you're
    only allowed to do it once in a lifetime for the EPA exemption, and your not
    allowed to sell it for at least 5 years.

    EPA does apply to you and I.
     
    Elmer McKeegan, Jun 2, 2004
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  4. Elmer McKeegan

    Brian Walker Guest

    And then you and I pay for the batteries to be recycled...twice.

    Thanks to the EPA.
     
    Brian Walker, Jun 2, 2004
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  5. I don't know what "bad name" you're talking about, but the "general
    population" enjoys NASCAR events, NHRA events, Air Shows, and many
    others. They enjoy hearing the sounds of good thumping motors.

    Just because the only rides you have would sound like a weedeater(tm)
    on prozac if you popped the cans, doesn't mean that people in the
    "general population" look down on others for their sounds.

    Besides that, all these "bikers with a bad name" is what gave many
    manufacturers their money. Bikers riding mopeds didn't do anything for
    them.
     
    from Nettalk Live here is Jovan Philyaw, Jun 3, 2004
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  6. Elmer McKeegan

    Tim Kreitz Guest

    Mostly because there's not much sense in it (especially considering
    how few motorcycles there are on the road wordwide compared to cars
    and trucks). Plus, motorcycles get outstanding gas mileage, by and
    large.

    Of the 117 million people in America who commute every day, 113
    million of them drive cars and SUVs. That means the remaining 4
    million is roughly distributed amongst the trucking industry, public
    transit, walking, bicycling, flying, and motorcycling. In other words,
    motorcycles contribute an insignificant amount of so-called
    'pollution' in the grand scheme of things.

    Those new EPA laws are about money and control and little else. Not
    everything the EPA does is bad, but this is. The EPA is a
    self-appointed, self-governing oligarchy that serves its own interests
    before it serves anyone else's (like most other government agencies).

    Enjoy the here and now, folks. Soon, every fucking thing on earth will
    be either illegal or regulated into obscurity for the sake of the
    State's tyrannical interests and self-perpetuating profitabilty. Never
    forget, you are exactly as free as your government says you are.

    <parable>

    "Your motorcycle is too loud and doesn't have a catalyst," said the
    EPA agent. Just then, his voice was suddenly drowned-out by a passing
    freight train, whose deafening volume and billowing exhaust plumes
    assaulted our very senses.

    "Trains are neat," he remarked at the sight of the passing caboose. "I
    hope to ride one some day.

    "Um, so where were we? Oh, I remember. Pay up, polluter!"

    </parable>

    And to think they did all this with absolutely no scientific evidence
    to support their mythical claims concerning global warming. I can only
    deduct from such lunacy that we are very near the end of civilization.

    Regards,

    Tim Kreitz
    2003 ZX7R
    2000 ZX6R
    DoD #2184
    http://www.timkreitz.com
     
    Tim Kreitz, Jun 3, 2004
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  7. Elmer McKeegan

    Bownse Guest

    Most EFI systems will compensate for the decreased back pressure [of 3rd party exhaust systems] Carbs, on the other hand, need to be tuned
    for this (shims, new jets, etc.).<

    I know! Great, innit?

    http://www.bikes-n-spikes.org/mods/cans/cans.html
     
    Bownse, Jun 3, 2004
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  8. Then you need to move to another neighborhood that isn't so cranky and
    into one which would represent the rest of the population of the
    world.
    Not true. The majority of "bikers" own motorcycles which are Harley
    Davidson or like. The minority of bikers are the one's riding mopeds
    and/or funky euro type bikes.

    You might want to consider that if you want a voice in the design of
    motorcycles, you need to jump into the majority either by joining the
    majority already in progress...or get the majority to think like you.
    Since the majority were borne from this culture of loud motorcycles,
    chopped motorcycles, custom bikes...I believe you have your work cut
    out to change their minds.
    Do you have a little tad of "self conscience" going there?

    I probably meant that someone who rides mopeds don't tend to do much
    for a market of motorcycling community. They tend to have zero
    imagination as to design issues which could be improved on to sell
    more of the market.

    Is this describing you or something? You seem to be concerned a bit
    about whether you're riding a "real motorcycle".
     
    from Nettalk Live here is Jovan Philyaw, Jun 4, 2004
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  9. <snip.>

    It makes sense, its just not practical at this point. Too little battery
    space so the cycle is on gas quite often. Electric is used mostly for stop
    and go traffic and I believe most motorcycles on the road are on hyway or
    back roads. In those cases your using the gas engine so for practical
    points your only seeing around 60 mpg average. Whereas hybrid cars can see
    around 50 mpg average because of the driving habits of most commuters.
    When he was running for election Al Gore made the promise that by 2017 he
    would outlaw all gas engines from the road. GW Bush made his statement
    before the 9/11 incident that he wanted a few billion added to research so
    that hydrogen electic cars would be practical by 2015. With both the
    republican and democrats aiming for some type of conversion by 2020, either
    motorcycles get to conversion along the way, or become obsolete. After all
    if cars do convert to electical with all the safety stuff, then motorcycles
    will be the biggest polluters on the road. It wouldn't take them but a
    heart beat to kill motorcycles as we know them.
    A friend of mine told me back in 91 that he believed that motorcycles would
    be history in 30 years. If things keep going to the way they are aiming,
    looks like he'll be pretty close.
     
    Elmer McKeegan, Jun 5, 2004
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  10. Elmer McKeegan

    Beemer Biker Guest

    I saw a huge# of scooters in japan and okinawa when when I was there on
    business in the last two years. Way more scooters than motorcycles, nothing
    like that in USA. I recall seeing dump trucks carrying wrecked scooters &
    motorcycles just like you see wrecked cars (neetly stack of course) in USA.
    Insurance is so high there that the japs export used auto as anyone who can
    afford insurance only bother to drive relatively new one. If you jack up
    insurance and gas prices people migrate to scooters and motorcycles to avoid
    the insurance (easily 1/2 the cost of the car) and save money on gas.
    scooters might work as they are used for commuting as in japan and I could
    guess that batteries could be easier to locate on a scooter. On the other
    hand if a gas powered one gets, say, 125 miles to a gallon, and you only
    commute 3-4 miles you cant pollute much.
    Yep, they might go the way of 2-strokes. I read where in Los Angles, during
    certain times, gas powered lawn mowers are prohibited so as to cut back on
    pollution. I have got a neighbor that has a small yard and a really huge
    riding lawn mower. Got the be the "SUV" of lawnmowers like you would see at
    a ranch type home. For where he lives, he could do with an electric mower.
    He should be paying a surcharge on his gas guzzleing SUV mower or at the
    very least I should get paid to mow my own lawn with a manual push type
    mower.
     
    Beemer Biker, Jun 5, 2004
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  11. You're kinda obsessed with the "leather and chrome" stuff. I find it
    more offensive (and more widespread of a problem) with someone ripping
    along with a loud exhaust at 25mph in first gear pulling about
    5000rpm...on a sportbike.

    Since you're remarking more about "leather and chrome" than you are
    "loud sounds", I'm under the impression you are somehow having more of
    a problem with "leather and chrome" than you are "loud exhaust".

    The Goldwing, came out as just a big motorcycle but had not even a
    windshield on it. Honda thought they built the "perfect motorcycle".
    Customizers got their hands on it and started dressing it up to fit
    their needs and Honda looked at it at shows and started building it to
    suit the riders' needs. Those were the same one's who were putting
    custom exhaust on their motorcycles and built a market for what we
    have today.

    Trust me, you're in a small minority of anyone.

    And you started out saying how bad of a problem it was that loud piped
    bikes with their leather and chrome were ripping through neighborhoods
    and giving bikers a bad name...now you live in a quiet neighborhood?
    You can't make up your mind one way or the other where you live.
     
    from Nettalk Live here is Jovan Philyaw, Jun 6, 2004
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  12. Then dig a hole in the dirt and set your head in it.

    The only thing which is a "noise problem" in neighborhoods is
    lawnmowers and car stereos.
    Only as good as your composition skills.

    I find both your comments funny!
     
    from Nettalk Live here is Jovan Philyaw, Jun 8, 2004
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  13. If you're that afraid of a "noise" going by you, then you might take
    that advice seriously.
    Actually, there's nothing "anonymous" about it. One can't post to
    Google (aka dejanews) using anonymous methods. I'm sure your "private
    e-mail user" is more anonymous than I am.

    That's why I said I find your comments about me posting anonymously
    funny.
     
    from Nettalk Live here is Jovan Philyaw, Jun 8, 2004
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  14. Elmer McKeegan

    Bill Walker Guest

    For once we agree on something, Albert... LMAO.. Seeing as how most of your
    "best buddies" are posting "anonymously" and using "aliases"... What's the
    problem ?
     
    Bill Walker, Jun 8, 2004
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