Engineery types: Epoxy?

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  1. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Confused now. Didn't you say up there that the epoxy would eat the foam?

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    Catman, Jan 7, 2007
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  2. Catman

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Now I come to google it I can only find Isopon Bumper Filler at 7 quid
    for 100ml !

    Searching for that I did come across something called morphplast though
    which looked interesting - Ebay item 120018788440. Lozzo's composite
    solution with bobbins sounds good to me using whatever seems best for
    the filling with a harder layer on top and bobbins for the mounting
    bolts. The expanding foam stuff in cans is incredible but you would have
    to create a sort of sealed mould to contain it perhaps.




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  3. Catman

    Eiron Guest

    "Fibreglass resin" is polyester resin. Epoxy is more expensive and
    normally used with carbon fibre or kevlar, and for small repairs as
    it sticks to epoxy or polyester. I didn't know that either dissolved
    any sort of foam.
     
    Eiron, Jan 7, 2007
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  4. Catman

    Catman Guest

    *Ouch* Not gonna happen :)
    And I need comparatively little. I think I'll just get some fibre
    re-inforced filler. That ebay stuff looks interesting but I doubt I
    could make it stick to the frame.


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    Catman, Jan 7, 2007
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  5. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Cool, ta

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    Catman, Jan 7, 2007
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    Beav Guest

    That's the stuff, but it's not light, so the expanding foam with a skim of
    polyester is the route I'd take, but make damned sure that none of the foam
    can get where you don't want it. That'll require a couple of plastic bags
    being placed inside the "pocket" you're going to fill and all points NSE &
    W.

    Also, bear in mind this stuff cures pretty slowly so it stay "mushy" in the
    middle while it feels pretty solid on the outside. Leave it at least a day
    before you start carving or it'll pour out of the middle when you go at it
    with the knives. An electric bread knife is the best tool for that job too.


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  7. Catman

    Beav Guest

    No, fibreglass resin eats expandy foam. Polyurethane resin doesn't.


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    Beav, Jan 7, 2007
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  8. Catman

    Beav Guest

    Crossed wires or summat, but no, epoxy resin won't eat the foam, but
    fibreglass resin will.


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    Beav, Jan 7, 2007
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  9. Catman

    Catman Guest

    I think I'm gonna stick with the re-inforced filler. It's less than a
    litre and should do the job (I hope)

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    Catman, Jan 7, 2007
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  10. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Gotcha. I think it's gonna be irrelevant now.

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    Catman, Jan 7, 2007
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  11. Well, if you're going to use polyurethane foam then allow it overnight
    to cure before trimming.

    Given that once you start a can of foam it's best to finish it, see if
    you need to fill any other holes around the house.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 7, 2007
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  12. Catman

    Beav Guest

    No it's not. Fibreglass resin is, believe it or not, for bonding fibreglass
    cloth/matting/panles etc which is nothing at all to do with polyester. It's
    "possible" to use fibreglass resin to bond polyester and it's "possible" to
    use polyester resin to bond fibreglass, but they're different and fibreglass
    resin eats various foams, including polyurethane foam. Polyester resin
    doesn't eat foam.

    Epoxy is more expensive and
    Fibreglass resin does. Ask any aeromodeller who's built foam cored wings and
    joined the two halves with fibreglass resin.


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  13. Catman

    Eiron Guest

    "Fibreglass resin" is polyester resin: http://www.cfsnet.co.uk/acatalog
    I never use polyester resin as I have enough epoxy to last a lifetime.
     
    Eiron, Jan 8, 2007
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  14. Catman

    Beav Guest

    Aye, Ok then , have it your way.


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    Beav, Jan 9, 2007
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