enfiled bullet

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Moi, Sep 14, 2005.

  1. Moi

    Donald Guest

    I meant the quality of the components as manufactured by Enfield India
    Ltd (Eicher) at their state of the art factory in Madras. A crank made
    with modern casting methods will be less likely to have flaws which were
    common 50 years ago.

    If you want improved, buy a modern engine and stick it in, a lot has
    happened with engine technology in the last half century.

    If you mean SOB improvements of the type consisting of forever
    dissassembling and reassembling with the odd component added and
    removed, well, thats a different hobby to motorbiking.
    I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.
     
    Donald, Sep 15, 2005
    #21
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  2. Moi

    Muck Guest

    Instead of swapping the whole lump, with a modern lump, I'd incorporate
    some modern ideas into the design to improve things. Electronic ignition
    would be one other example.
    That all depends what this motorcycling lark is to you. I don't see the
    problem with taking something apart ten times to get it right.
    Should that have had a # in front I wonder? :)
     
    Muck, Sep 15, 2005
    #22
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  3. Moi

    darsy Guest

    Donald wrote:
    [Enfields]
    **** it, chuck the Enfield completely, and buy a Kawasaki W650[1]. Job
    done.

    [1] I still fancy a go on one of these, to disuade me from rather
    wanting one.
     
    darsy, Sep 15, 2005
    #23
  4. Moi

    Guy Fawkes Guest

    I'm afraid that just isn't the case, all these "modern" ideas have all
    been done before, usually better.... watercooled V4 motorcycle engine
    mr honda? well ajs did it in 1933, and fitted a blower too....

    no, there are two*** specific areas where modern motorcycles
    technologies utterly blow away the state of the art when my dad was a
    lad riding rudge ulsters etc, and neither of them are engine designs...

    1/ oil / lubricant technology. this has advanced so far as to be almost
    miraculous to a pre-war engineer.

    2/ tyre technology, ditto, TT100, nuff said.

    everything else is like shakespeare said, nothing new under the sun....

    ***
    I'll grant you there are two other, less significant because they both
    have workarounds, areas of advancement, one is adhesives and the other
    is electronics.... adhesives make better braking compounds and
    technologies possible, eg high performance disk brakes, and electronics
    make electronic ignition possible, but I, and drag racers, would still
    rather take a belt off of a modern ignition system than a magneto.
     
    Guy Fawkes, Sep 15, 2005
    #24
  5. Moi

    Howard Guest

    I did just that last month.

    I like the look and the sound of these machines but it didn't
    work for me when I rode it.

    'Foreshortened' might describe one aspect of it, like the bike
    had too short a wheel base(?)

    The footpegs are very wide apart (nearly as wide as my RT
    engine), with lots of hard metal bits very near my ankle bones.
     
    Howard, Sep 15, 2005
    #25
  6. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, BORG
    Oh *do* **** off, you tiresome ****.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Sep 15, 2005
    #26
  7. Moi

    Muck Guest

    Well, yes... but. We have the advantage of modern computers with all
    their swanky finite element analysis software. We now know things like
    where oil flows in an engine with less guess work too[1]. Then there are
    materials and electronic components that weren't around then.
    Granted.. apart from castor oils I'd say, for specialist racing
    applications, they can be better.
    :)

    [1]I'm thinking about Harley and their early XR750 engine... I read it
    somewhere in a book once.
     
    Muck, Sep 15, 2005
    #27
  8. Moi

    Pip Guest

    I believe filing bullets to be in contravention of the Geneva
    Convention.
     
    Pip, Sep 15, 2005
    #28
  9. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
    What if you file them under "Not To Be Fired"? That'd be OK, wouldn't
    it?

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Sep 15, 2005
    #29
  10. Moi

    Ace Guest

    Not if you use an enfilade.

    --
    _______
    ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
    \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3
    `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2
    `\|/`
    `
     
    Ace, Sep 15, 2005
    #30
  11. Moi

    Howard Guest

    Heh.

    I am not the one to ask about performance, gentle filtering is
    what I go for and no crazy mph.

    Drum brakes leave a bit to be desired, but the engine pulls at
    surprisingly low revs.

    I didn't test the flickability, it had only done 700 miles and I
    didn't want to drop it.

    Handling I was unsure about then just before the man collected it
    I checked the tyre pressure... about 10lbs/

    Anyway now I want a BMW R80ST
     
    Howard, Sep 15, 2005
    #31
  12. Wotcha.
    Proves that some things never change ;-)
    http://www.moonshiners.org.uk/images/oilfield.jpg
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, Sep 15, 2005
    #32
  13. Moi

    Howard Guest

    now feel the
    Another BMW twin
     
    Howard, Sep 15, 2005
    #33
  14. Moi

    Pip Guest

    Dear Howard

    I find most motorcycles have lots of metal bits, all of which by their
    very nature are hard, right next to my ankle bones.

    That's why I wear boots.
     
    Pip, Sep 16, 2005
    #34
  15. Moi

    prawn Guest

    Shant.
     
    prawn, Sep 16, 2005
    #35
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