Enfield 350... is it worth it?

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by confuseduser, May 14, 2005.

  1. confuseduser

    confuseduser Guest

    Enfield 350 (ebay item 4548850277) it has already reached £999,
    considering that it is nearly ten years old, is it overpriced at this?


    The pictures suggest it has been well looked after.

    Poor electrics, kikstarts that had no kick in them, had these earlier
    Indian Enfield problems been cured by 1995?
     
    confuseduser, May 14, 2005
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  2. Yes.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 14, 2005
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  3. confuseduser

    Guest Guest

    Enfield 350 (ebay item 4548850277) it has already reached £999,
    New ones are now only two grand (albeit without a fake
    'plate) which indicates a mere 50% depreciation in a decade.
    Harleys are about the only bikes with that level of
    residual value, and this ain't a Harley.

    Most tellingly, the "real" bidders stopped at a Monkey.

    If you really _must_ have one, wait till the new emissions
    regs come in in 2006: There'll be a rush to dump or
    pre-register remaining stocks and the prices will fall even
    lower (£2,350 last year, £1,995 this year).
     
    Guest, May 15, 2005
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  4. confuseduser

    Salad Dodger Guest

    What you really mean:

    "Harley are the only other manufacturers still banging out the same
    old rubbish after ten years."
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    Salad Dodger, May 15, 2005
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  5. confuseduser

    doc Guest

    Harley's have the biggest cult following in the world of motorcycling and,
    whether rubbish or not, they command high prices as a result. Probably not
    deserved, but every major motorcycle manufacturer (read "Japanese") now
    produces almost nothing but Harley clones for their street/touring
    machines.



    doc
    1970 Yamaha XS1
    1965 Honda 50 CA100
    1976 Garelli RallySport
     
    doc, May 15, 2005
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  6. confuseduser

    SteveH Guest

    That's frankly bollocks.

    My VFR is in the 'street / touring' class and looks nothing like a
    Hardly.
     
    SteveH, May 15, 2005
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  7. confuseduser

    doc Guest


    How special for you. Check the websites for Honda, Suzuki, and Yamaha.
    Sport bikes don't count.

    doc
     
    doc, May 15, 2005
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  8. confuseduser

    SteveH Guest

    In case you hadn't noticed, a VFR800 isn't a 'sport' bike.
     
    SteveH, May 15, 2005
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  9. confuseduser

    doc Guest

    Hmmm. Sport styling, sport fairing, uptilt sport silencer, low rider
    profile, rear controls, indistisguishable from every other crotch rocket,
    with high RPM and race gearing.

    http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mccompare/touring/01vfr6r.motml

    Nope, I hadn't noticed.

    So, where do hang your long-range gear on that "touring" VFR? Tent?
    Sleeping bag? Change of clothing? Mess kit? Oh, and your partner's stuff,
    too.

    doc
     
    doc, May 15, 2005
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  10. Um, as others point out, there's the VFR. I'd class it as sport-touring,
    myself. Then Honda also produces the Gold Wing, which is about as far
    from the harley mould as it's possible to get. Not to mention the
    Pan-European and the Deauville.

    Kawasaki is a race apart, as it were, and produces little but sports
    machine plus the odd cruiser, which I think may be the word you're
    looking for.

    Suzuki produces the Bandits in all sorts of variations, which are as far
    removed as it is possible to get from your "Sport styling, sport
    fairing, uptilt sport silencer, low rider profile, rear controls,
    indistisguishable from every other crotch rocket, with high RPM and race
    gearing" description. Plus the GSX1400, SGX750 and others.

    Yamaha makes the FJR1300 tourer, XJR1300 all-rounder, Fazers, TDM900 and
    even the MT-01, which although it has a thumping vee-twin could hardly
    be termed a Harley clone.

    Now, I wouldn't argue with what you're saying about the Harley myth, but
    for the rest, you, sir, are talking out of your arse.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 15, 2005
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  11. confuseduser

    SteveH Guest

    I suggest you get a fucking clue before posting drivel like this.

    It's a very relaxed riding position - certainly not an 'arse up, head
    down' sportsbike riding position, and it's relatively low revving - it
    will pull from next to ****-all.
    Google for 'Givi Wingrack'.

    Fuckwit.
     
    SteveH, May 15, 2005
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  12. Harsh, but fair.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 15, 2005
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  13. confuseduser

    doc Guest

    Well, it wouldn't be the first time and probably won't be the last.

    doc
    1970 Yamaha XS1
    1965 Honda 50 CA100
    1976 Garelli RallySport
     
    doc, May 15, 2005
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  14. confuseduser

    Champ Guest

    On Sun, 15 May 2005 07:59:41 +0100,
    Kawasaki have the new Z1000 and Z750, which almost define a new style
    of "street" bike. They're certainly not sports bikes (tho can perhaps
    be considered 'sporting') but aren't touring either. I think they
    hark back to the days of the 70s and 80s when you could buy one bike,
    ride it to work in the week, go for a blast at weekends and take it on
    holiday for two weeks in the summer.
     
    Champ, May 16, 2005
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  15. Kawasaki have the new Z1000 and Z750, which almost define a new style
    Aaaah, happy days ;-)

    Exactly what I used to do with my Z650.

    Now it's all 'niche marketing' bollocks.

    David.
     
    David Sillitoe., May 16, 2005
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  16. confuseduser

    Champ Guest

    Me too!
    Well yes. Tho it has to be said, today's full on sports bikes are
    quite capable of having luggage strapped to them and being ridden
    round europe for two weeks.
     
    Champ, May 16, 2005
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  17. Dunno why, but in 22 yrs of biking I've never wanted or owned anything even
    resembling a sportsbike... I guess I always made my choice based on the
    suitability for touring, and put up with an overweight lump for the other 46
    weeks of the year...
     
    David Sillitoe., May 16, 2005
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  18. David Sillitoe. wrote
    Depends where you ride and how you ride there though dunnit? My
    knowledge of the roads goes back 40 years and tbh I simply don't see the
    point of a road going sports bike today. You have nowhere to use the
    thing.

    Simply look at the threads posted around here over the years to see that
    the FBC was having to get up before dawn on a summer Sunday to get even
    a chance at a traffic free five minutes before the Christians hit the
    roads.

    I can see the point of cubes though, there simply is no substitute.


    The hard bit innit. There is no doubt about it that I have done far
    more miles commuting than playing and a CG125(MSoHP) would be as ideal a
    bike as any for me. Except.....
     
    steve auvache, May 16, 2005
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  19. I simply don't see the point of a road going sports bike today. You have
    nowhere to use the thing.

    Exactly, that's why several lads in my village have trashed their (uninsured
    for track day) bikes recently...
    Also very true, that's why mainland Europe is the only place to ride.
    Blimey, now I know why I rode so many big V twins ;-)
     
    David Sillitoe., May 16, 2005
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  20. Heh.

    The Ducati is a surprisingly good distance bike - comfy, which I didn't
    expect, and you just add soft luggage. I've done over 600 miles in a day
    on it.

    But a purpose-designed touring bike, like the Trophy, is *so* much
    better.

    Which is why I've got both ;-))
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 16, 2005
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